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enzo

Yes, he was mentioned. I have read the Bible hundreds of times and I can tell you with certainty that he is mentioned in the Book of Revelation: Rev 13:11-17

Debbie

For anyone not familiar with Rev. 13:11-17, here they are:


The Beast out of the Earth

11 Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. 12 He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. 14 Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.
The New International Version, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House) 1984.

Jeremy Pierce

So what about Muhammad duplicates the death and resurrection of Jesus? That's what the beast does in Rev 13. I also don't know about any restriction of buying and selling among non-Muslims in Muhammad's community.

Debbie

Jeremy, nothing about Mohammad has anything to do with the Bible. That was the point of the post and the article which it was based on. Perhaps I did not do a good job of portraying that.

Mohammad was NOT mentioned in the Bible; NOT foretold or promised in the Bible; and was an evil man, not a prophet.

Jeremy Pierce

I didn't assume you agreed with the commenter. I was simply responding to the commenter with very explicit reasons, something you hadn't done that I thought would be good to do.

john ruberto

jesus warned of false prophets

raju

1.
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:

Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):

i)
Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]

ii)
Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

iii)
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)

Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

Words in the mouth:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

[Deuteronomy 18:18]

iv)
Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

v)
Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

iv)
Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

2.
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19

"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."

3.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:

It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".

4.
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.

1.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2.
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).

4.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

RoadKnight

Ok. Point by point. I'll start with Enzo.

Revelations has nothing to do with uohammed. For one thing, before the Beast can arise, the Rapture of Christ's church must first occur. Until that time, the Beast cannot come forth because it is the power of believers holding him back.

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" - 1 Corinthians 15:52

Now onto Raju:

First, Muhammed could not have been the "Comfortor" mentioned. For one, he was not an Isrealite. Muhammed is desended from Ishmael, but the line of the Chosen People of God (i.e. - the Jews/Isrealites) came from Issac.

There's really not much point in going further because this one point (see above) proves that Muhammed is not the comforter and was not a true prophet. But I'll touch on a few other things.

Second, you state that both Muhammed and Moses had "died natural deaths." Yet Islam specifically states that Muhammed assended into heaven at the Dome of the Rock (hence it's holy significance in Islam).

You are correct in that Muhammed is mentioned in the Bible. Though not by name:

"15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit." - Matthew 7:15-17

According to the Hadith, Mohammed committed murder, incest, pedophilia (he had a 10 year old "wife"), lied, stole, and cheated. The world can plainly see what kind of "fruit" the "prophet" Muhammed brought forth.

I feel great pity for those who follow this false prophet. I hope and pray that they someday come to know the one true Lord and Saviour of all of mankind. And, Mr. Raju, that most definately includes you.

none

The prophet Muhammed (pbuh) is in the Bible.

Please click on this link (or copy and paste):

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/6808/Muhammad.html

Its got refrences to the Bible so that you can see for yourself.

peace.

RoadKnight

None: I just took a look that that website. What is Dr. Jamal Badawi's PHD in? Underwater basket weaving? He certainly doesn't know anything about the Bible or Jesus.

I'm not going to bother debunking his patently false assumptions. The shear fact that he thinks that Muhammed died a natural death when the Hadith (I've read it so please don't try claiming that it doesn't state this) states that he ascended to heaven proves that he is either ignorant of Islam as well as Christianity or that he is a liar. I honestly don't know which since I don't know him. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and state that he is ignorant.

Muhammed was a false prophet and the fruit of his works proves this. Murder, theft, dishonesty, child abuse and molestation. This is the example that Islam's "prophet" has left you. Those are his works.

As for everyone else: Do you see how this works? This is the example that Muhammed left to his followers. Lie to the infidel. Get them to believe in Allah by lies, trikery, and threats. And if that doesn't work, kill them. Muhammed's message was one of hate, fear, and death.

Kambot

I'm not going to argue whether or not there are prophecies about Mohammed in the Bible, I don't see that it matters that much. But I would caution the christians quoting scripture like:
"16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit." - Matthew 7:15-17"

as proof Mohammed was a false prophet. Christianity has it's own dark history or 'evil fruit' and by your own reasoning could suggest Jesus was a false prophet. There are zealots in every faith and you should not judge another faith based on zealots any more than you would like to be judged because of the christians that participated in the crusades, inquisition, salem witch trials, etc. I know muslims who are great people, and don't like terrorists any more than I do. Besides doesn't the Bible tell you not to judge?

mohammed abbid

ISLAM WILL PREVIAL. IT IS THE TRUE RELIGION. JUDAISUM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE INCOMPLETE RELIGIONS, THE PEOPLE OF WHICH FAILED TO TAKE THE WORD OF GOD FROM MOSES(PBUH) AND JESUS(PBUH). MUSLIMS RESPECT ALL PROPHETS OF GOD, AND AWAIT THE ARRIVAL OF JESUS(PBUH) TO LEAD THEM AGAINST THE NON-BELIVERS OF DUJAAL, INCLUDING JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. (OBVIOUSLY THEY STILL DONT WANT THE TRUTH!

HAPPY RAMADAN AND EID TO ALL!

BIRMINGHAM (UK)

Shepdawg

What does the Holy Bible say about Islam? It actually tells allot. The patriarch of all three religions is Abraham. He had two sons Ishmael and Isaac. Muslims claim to be descended from the family of Ishmael and the Jews and therefore Christian lineage are from the family of Isaac. Abraham was married to Sara who was barren and unable to have children. So she gave her maid Hagar, to Abraham and conceived Ishmael. This being unholy in the eyes of God. So God made Sara fertile and they conceived Isaac. Here is what the King James Version of the Bible says about Ishmael (Islam) and about Isaac (Judeo-Christian).

Genesis 16

8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.

9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Ishmael (Islam) will be a war maker and fight against all mankind.

Genesis 17

15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.

16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.

17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?

18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!

19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

Although God blessed Ishmael (Islam) saved his life in the desert (Genesis 21: 17-20) and made him the patriarch of 12 tribes, His sacred covenant was with Isaac (Judeo-Christian) and all of his descendants and they are His chosen people.

Mai

My interpretation of the upcoming prophet listed above, when Moses said their will be some one like me, it can't be Jesus, since according to Christians, Jesus was not a prophet but god himself in man form. The Statement Beware of false prophets in Sheep's clothing, is probably the same statement the Jews used to not accept Jesus, just like Christians are not accepting Mohamed. This is what differentiates these 3 religions, Jews are still waiting for their prophet who was mentioned in the Torah, Christians believe it is Jesus, but if Jesus was god, how can he be like Moses who was a messenger of God and Muslims believe that that prophet(Messenger) already came and died who was Mohamed, there will be no more after him. FYI, the Quran also warns about false prophets. The preaching of Trinity, should have been mentioned in the Torah, but out these three religions only Christianity believes in trinity, when the two other religions believe in only one God. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet, but do not believe He claimed to be God himself, the idea of trinity came after Jesus which is what Mohamed was trying to correct. Back to the statement, beware of false prophets. Peace be upon everyone here, and may you find enlightenment in your pursuit of faith and God.

riyaz Mohamed

do you accept that King James Version of the Bible is a translated version from hebru language?
If So what was the word used in that for “Comforter.”

and tell me why they did not translate the word "moses" in to english.

riyaz Mohamed

והארמ זפ-ינדא-לע םידסימ שש
ידומע ויקוש וט 15
:םיזראכ רוחב ןונבלכ

please check this

Umar

the same is said about jesus by other religions :)

sam

Firstly, The Quran teaches us to speak kinds words to the people of the book,"as among them there are people of understanding".(Refering to the Jews & Christians). So I canot argue with you in a rude or aragont way.
Secondly, it also teaches us that we have to accept that the holy books revealed before the Quran were from God(Allah)(eg, Torah, Thalmud, Bible.) But it does warn us beware of those who right these books with there own hand and claim to be from god. It also mentions that the people took on board what they liked and dismissed or left out what they dont look. (eg, the Old & New testaments. They all start with according to. Meaning, that they are different people who wrote them. If it was The exact revelation of God I know for sure that these people would have been more than happy to share it with the world and say that this is the true revelation of God's(Allahs) word. And would have documented all there details, surname, family background,lineage just to prove it. But the only thing the Christians and Claim to have is a translation of the bible in greek.Up-to this day we still have the christians editing and claiming these are revised versions of the translations. All the muslim asks for of the Christians show me the proof of the original revelations.
Thirdly, For arguments sake. Lets just say Mohamed(pbuh) was not mentioned in the Bible. I find it amazing that the whole world of Islam accepts Jesus,(pbuh) Mary the mother of Jesus (may allah be pleased with this righteous woman) as one of the holiest prophets ever sent to mankind, They believe in his miraculas birth, they believe he heeled the blind and lepers with gods permission.
He is spoken of so highly and beautifully in the Holy Quran. The Teachings of Our beloved Prophet Mohamed( pbuh) about Jesus(pbuh) were of the most kind, gentle and beautiful that anyone could speak about a man. Yet the Knowledege Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) had of Jesus(pbuh) was second to none. Amazing situation.It had to have come from somwhere (The Quran & what was reveadled by the Angel Gabriel.) Yet All I hear from alot of Christians, is that he was a False prophet, he was this and that. Come on! i can point out alot that is in the bible which denotes women, promotes insests, prophets sleeping around and alot more great sins, which go unpunished. But i dont like to mock the bible. But these points are overlooked by alot of people. The muslim point of view on these topics is that we dont accept the claims and statements made towards any of these holy men.
On a final note. Islam out of the three main religions. (Judaism, Christanity & Islam.) Is the most accepting religion out of them. Just follow these easy steps as to why.
1. The Jews say, you cannot go to heaven unless you were born of a jewish mother, even if you revert to Judaisim. When you do revert what happens on the other side is upto god.You are living in uncertaity and forever trying to be accepted.
(SO IT STOPS THERE).
2. The Christians Say if you dont believe in the Trinity and find salvation in Jesus Christ (pbuh) you will not go to heaven.What happens to all the people before Christ(pbuh) and the people who the message has not reached.
(SO IT STOPS THERE)
3. Islam has answered both these issues.It says, Belive in all the Prophets, Angels, Books revealed,do righteuos deeds and the main thing is BELIEVE IN ONE GOD.(Along with God's rullings and ways of the prophets, but that is another topic.) The exact teachings of all the Prophets from Adam (pbuh) To Mohamed, (pbuh)Please Go back and read your Books with an open mind and heart and you will see that they all convey the same message, read beyond the fancy wording and writing, and you will find they all refer to a supreme power in heaven.

If you cannot see the truth and light that came from Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) and are only seeing what publicist and plotters and planners against islam are doing, Then you are contracdicting your very own teachings.

If you think that that Bible doesn't mention anything about Mohamed
(pbuh) then start at the other end and read what Mohamed (pbuh) says about our beloved prophet Jesus(pbuh) and hopefully you find the connection between them.

Salams(peace) to everyone

Hector

if people now a days kill in the name of Allah, and belief that when resurection comes only Muslims will rise and have females for their pleasure then they need a personal experience with "GOD THE ALMIGHTY" .

PALADIN

mohammed abbid????? WELL AT LEAST YOU GOT THE SAME NAME AS YOUR BLOODTHIRSTY PEDOPHILE PROPHET MOHAMMED(DDFBUH) "DEATH, DESTRUCTION,FIRE, BE UPON HIM!!!!) THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL JESUS CHRIST COMING BACK TO TAKE HIS PEOPLE, i.e. CHRISTIANS TO BE WITH HIM. NOT MUSLIMS.

Neutral

Believe what you will but time to nail the child bride thing on the head. The age could be anywhere from around 6 to early teens, with sex four years after this. Young in today's age but marriage this early wasn't only acceptable then, it was often a necessity. Most people didn't live much beyond 30. There wasn't time to finish school, go to university, fall in love then think about having a family when your partner's career takes off. By that time, most would have only had around 5-10 years of life left.

alaa

Just use your mind a little away from what the others babbling about Mohemmed pbuh...

First I read the original article, it said that Moses predects another prophet and that article concluded that that prophet was Jesus not Mohemmed, Ok ... Yuo see now? Prophet .... Prophet and not a God, and that means according to the prophecy that Jesus is a prophet, but the bible said that Jesus is a god not a prophet, so either is the bible is lying or it's Moses whos lying and I doubt it's the later...

Any way, yeah in the Qura'an Mosus actualy predict Jesus coming AND Mohemmed coming. both of them, but again we can't gudge using the bible since it's full of corrubted information as I mentioned, and full of contraries. not only this example but alot a lot more proof that the holy book doesn't has the right events since the manytimes changes in it.

alaa

Just use your mind a little away from what the others babbling about Mohemmed pbuh...

First I read the original article, it said that Moses predects another prophet and that article concluded that that prophet was Jesus not Mohemmed, Ok ... Yuo see now? Prophet .... Prophet and not a God, and that means according to the prophecy that Jesus is a prophet, but the bible said that Jesus is a god not a prophet, so either is the bible is lying or it's Moses whos lying and I doubt it's the later...

Any way, yeah in the Qura'an Mosus actualy predict Jesus coming AND Mohemmed coming. both of them, but again we can't gudge using the bible since it's full of corrubted information as I mentioned, and full of contraries. not only this example but alot a lot more proof that the holy book doesn't has the right events since the manytimes changes in it.

Ama

Just a quick note, the Arabic word "Muhammad" is an expression which means "The honorable one" or "The glorified one" or "The admirable". Prophet Muhammad was the first in the Middle East to be named "Muhammad". Below, you will see how Jesus in today's Gospel of John had called this human Prophet which he predicted his comming "The honorable one".

Jesus in the Greek Bible used the Greek word "Periklytos" which means the admirable or glorified one. He called that predicted human prophet "Periklytos". This word corresponds exactly to the Arabic word "Muhammad" which also means the "admired one" or "glorified one." In other words, "Periklytos" is "Muhammad" in Greek.

Paul

Ok,where do I start?
Now those who refer to Deut 18:14-20 as claims that the Prophet was to arise from their Brethren and the Ridiculous Idea that the word Brethren here some how refers to the descendants of Ishmael, Isaac's brother just baffles me beyond understanding. If thats the angle being taken, then the brethren would be Esau's descendants as these are closer to the Nation of Israel as Esau was Jacob's(Israel's) twin brother. And besides that Abraham, in Gen 25 married Keturah after Sarah's death and she bore him six sons so these sons' descendants are also brethren of Israel so that means the Prophet would also come from any of these descendants going by your claim that brethren means descendants of Ishmael. Secondly, in Deut 17:14-16, God tells the Israelites that they are to pick a King from among their Brethren and not a foreigner. So does this mean that the Kings of Israel should have been descendants of Ishmael?Going by your ridiculous argument that the term brethren in Deut 18:15-18 means descendants of Ishmael? And we know from the Bible that God personally picked Saul(1st Sam 9:1-27) and Later David (1st Sam 16:1-13) through his Servant Samuel, and David and Saul were definately Israelites according to my last check. Thirdly, saying that Moses and Muhammed are similar because they both had a father and mother, were accepted by their own people, died natural deaths,Both had wives and children etc.... Pardon me if I am wrong but apart from Jesus Christ, everyone else on Earth has had a father and mother,Prophets like Ezekiel, Hosea,Samuel all had wives and children, many prophets such as Isaiah, Malachi, Daniel etc were accepted by their people just like Moses and Mohammed were so again all those comparisons are rubbish to say the Least. Then, I dont Know how Muhammed died, but in Deut 34;5-12, we are told Moses died and was burried by the LORD. Now if this Prophet who was to come after Moses and was to be greater than him then surely he would have to surpass what Moses did. Moses knew the LORD face to face and did many miraculous signs, I dont know how many Muhammed did. In Hebrews 3:1-6, we are clearly told that Jesus Christ is Greater than Moses. In the Gospel of John 14:15-17, we are promised a counsellor who will be with us forever, that is the Spirit of Truth. Verse 17 clearly states that the world can not receive this counsellor because it neither sees him nor knows him and that he will dwell with us and IN us. Now, I think you will agree with me that Muhammed is no longer on this earth, i.e he is dead. But this counsellor that is promised by Jesus will live IN us and with us FOREVER!!!! The world can not accept Him because it neither sees him nor knows him. Correct me if I am wrong but Muhammed was not invisible, was he? But this counsellor is invisible to the Human eye according to this scripture. Then another disturbing thing is, if Muslims claim that the Bible is corrupted, then why do they keep referring to it as proof for prophecy about Muhammed? We as Christians NEVER EVER refer to the Koran because it is totally corrupted. And if the Bible be corrupted, can the Muslim community come up and tell us which verses and books are corrupted? Then one more request to the Muslims, prove thet Muhammed is actually a descendant of Ishmael. Lastly, in the book of Revelation in Chapter 22:18-19, we are STERNLY warned by John the Apostle not to add or take away anything from the prophecy of the Holy book for God will add the plagues described in the book and take away the portion from the tree of life described in the book. Let those who are wise heed to this. In conclusion, Jesus said in John 14:6 "I am the way, the Truth and the Life, NO ONE comes to the Father except through me." God Bless us ALL in Jesus Christ's name. AMEN
Paul

S RACH

prophete like moses
to whom does this prophecy refer?without hesitation you ll c Jesus i ask all christian,y Jesus his name is not mentioned here?and i ask in which way jesus is like moses?you will c to me that :
-moses was a jew and jesus was also
-moses was a prophet n jesus was aprophet
thereforejesus is like moses .
I ask you again n again is any other similarities betwen moses n jesus?certainly not ,ok if these are the only two criteriafor discovring a condidate forthis prophecy then in that case this criteria could fit one of the folowing biblical personages after moses: solomon,isaiak,ezekiel,daniel,hoseajoel,Malachi,jhon the baptist,because they were all JEWS as well as PROPHETS WHY SHOULD WE NOT APPLY THIS PROPHECY TO anyone of themand why only JESUS ?my conclusions are that JESUS ismost unlike moses ,inthe first place jesus is not like moses.
because according to you JESUS IS GOD but MOSES IS NOT GOD.
SECONDLY according to you JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD but MOSES did not hve to die for the sins of the world therefore JESUS is not like MOSES.
thirdly ACCORDING TO YOU AS WELL JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS but moses did not have to go to there.is this true???ask yourself???? therefore JESUS IS NOT LIKE MOSES.

romus

BLESSINGS OF ISHMAEL AND ISAAC

Was the first born son of Abraham (Ishmael) and his descendants included in God's covenant and promise? A few verses from the Bible may help shed some light on this question;

1.

Genesis 12:2-3 speaks of God's promise to Abraham and his descendants before any child was born to him.
2.

Genesis 17:4 reiterates God's promise after the birth of Ishmael and before the birth of Isaac.
3.

In Genesis, ch. 21. Isaac is specifically blessed but Ishmael was also specifically blessed and promised by God to become "a great nation" especially in Genesis 21:13, 18.
4.

According to Deuteronomy 21:15-17 the traditional rights and privileges of the first born son are not to be affected by the social status of his mother (being a "free" woman such as Sarah, Isaac's mother, or a "Bondwoman" such as Hagar, Ishmael's mother). This is only consistent with the moral and humanitarian principles of all revealed faiths.
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The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham's son and "seed" and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham's wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3. After Jesus, the last Israelite messenger and prophet, it was time that God's promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God's blessing of both of the main branches of Abraham's family tree was now fullfilled. But are there additional corroborating evidence that the Bible did in fact foretell the advent of prophet Muhammad?

romus

THE AWAITED PROPHET WAS TO COME FROM ARABIA

Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (probably the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Mecca).

Indeed the King James version of the Bible mentions the pilgrims passing through the valley of Ba'ca (another name of Mecca) in Psalms 84:4-6.

Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the beloved of God. His elect and messenger who will bring down a law to be awaited in the isles and who "shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgement on earth." Verse 11, connects that awaited one with the descendants of Ke'dar. Who is Ke'dar? According to Genesis 25:13, Ke'dar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of prophet Muhammad.

romus

MUHAMMAD'S MIGRATION FROM MECCA TO MEDINA: PROPHECIED IN THE BIBLE?

Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man (an Oasis North of Medina according to J. Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible), and the holy one (coming) from Paran. That holy one who under persecution migrated from Paran (Mecca) to be received enthusiastically in Medina was none but prophet Muhammad.

Indeed the incident of the migration of the prophet and his persecuted followers is vividly described in Isaiah 21:13-17. That section foretold as well about the battle of Badr in which the few ill-armed faithful miraculously defeated the "mighty" men of Ke'dar, who sought to destroy Islam and intimidate their own folks who turned -to Islam.

romus

HE QUR'AN (KORAN) FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE?

For twenty-three years, God's words (the Qur'an) were truely put into Muhammad's mouth. He was not the "author" of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was dictated to him by Angel Gabriel who asked Muhammad to simply repeat the words of the Qur'an as he heard them. These words were then committed to memory and to writing by those who hear them during Muhammad's life time and under his supervision.

Was it a coincidence that the prophet "like unto Moses" from the "brethren" of the Israelites (i.e. from the lshmaelites) was also described as one in whose mouth God will put his words and that he will speak in the name of God, (Deuteronomy 18:18-20). Was it also a coincidence the "Paraclete" that Jesus foretold to come after Him was described as one who "shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak (John 16:13)

Was it another coincidence that Isaiah ties between the messenger connected with Ke'dar and a new song (a scripture in a new language) to be sang unto the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11). More explicitly, prophesies Isaiah "For with stammering lips, and another tongue, will he speak to this people" (Isaiah 28:11). This latter verse correctly describes the "stammering lips" of Prophet Muhammad reflecting the state of tension and concentration he went through at the time of revelation. Another related point is that the Qur'an was revealed in piece-meals over a span of twenty three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28:10 whichspeaks of the same thing.

john

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem.

Aarash_McCAIN

All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.

1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

FAR

HOLY is translated from HAG-EE-OS

Means : Physically Pure, Morally Blameless, Religious, Saint, (most) Holy (one)

GHOST is translated from PNYOO-MAH

Means : Human or Superhuman, by analogy or figuratively a spirit,

With the word HAG-EE-OS, how one can inject the meaning of PNYOO-MAH as spirit.

Rectified Translation of John 14:26 .....

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Morally Blameless Human, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

adrian

My God, i have seen the intolerance for myself. Praise to the church of the universe, to the faithful muhammed, to all muslims.
Christians, read the Qur'an and hear the wonderful things said about Jesus and his Mother Mary. It is unlimited love, and so if a man like muhammed could speak of love for Jesus, who also speaks mainly about the salvation of love, how is it that man becomes evil?
It is wrong to say he (muhammed) is evil because he waged war. he waged war with a small army to protect his tiny band of muslims from an opressor. he won. good for him, keeping his people alive. there are justifications for fighting, albeit small, and if you want to see small justifications making big wars, the war in iraq is a great example.

ash

To PALADIN guy whose comment is at the bottom somewhere peodophile? really??! are you that stupid that you dont realise that civilisations change over time? back in those times god made mary give birth to jesus at 13. does that mean you follow a pedophile god? now for the not so dumb people wanting an answer to this: the biological age a persons body is ready to have sex is when they reach puberty (ages 9-14) if you dont believe me ask a doctor. the only reason we have age restrictions now is because people arent mature enough until 18-24. secondly, like i said before god let mary give birth to jesus at 13, so if god thinks that is the cotrrect age who are we to argue? surely we arent as smart as god? and finally, the age restriction in england is 16 other western countries have the age restriction at 18 therefore we human beings cannot all clarify that a certain age is the right age. end of story.

Isa

Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same message. To love one another. The Quran has some guides we must follow (not always followed by all Muslims you get ignorant people in all faiths) but one of the laws is to not deal in RIBA (make loans for interest) this is why we have muslim mortgages . This was something that Jesus came to stop the people of his time doing however this is something that a lot of Christians have forgotten about and feel quite happy that their prime ministers or presidents go on holy or democratic wars on borrowed money. Let me put it this way Jesus was a prophet of god. He prayed to god (not to himself. That would be crazy) the roman empire were politicians bankers. They changed information to suit pagan countries such as England (I am white and british so I'm not being nationalistic or racist) ie Christmas falling on the winter solstice. The message of Islam is to worship the one god who created all things. The most gracious the most merciful what can evil in that . Agreed some people have a crazy way of going about practising Islam but so do both Christians and Jews. The devil has got us fighting each other so that none of us are sucsessfull in our faith. Why watch star wars, empire strikes back and not watch return of the Jedi. Please I beg of you read the usuf Ali translation of the quran with an open heart please don't read it to judge it a your heart won't be open and pure and please stick with it to the end its known as the great sea because their is some waves along the way. I read it as a British agnostic who loved the message of Jesus and creation of god but couldn't trust the church. I pray to god the most gracious the most forgiving that if I have upset anybody in this message that they forgive me. May gods peace and blessings be upon you all. amen.

muhammed

theres non worthy of being worshiped but Allah, mohammed is His messenger

sayeed

you peoples should think with your understanding. Who is the father of Jesus(pbuh)? and who is the mother of Jesus(pbuh)? think, indirectly are you not using the word husband and wife for the father and mother of Jesus(pbuh). So indirectly you are abusing God Almighty, Mother Marry, and Jesus(pbuh) himself. Then will Jesus(pbuh) help you in the life after after you abuse the three. Think for you are intelligent persons. And then also if you are not able to come to conclusion then accept that Jesus was the miracle made by God Almighty with no father but only by mother and is an human being and the prophet of God Almighty.

Isaac

Maybe evangelical zionists should leave this subject alone. As the evidence against to what these untrained in religious studies evangelicals state is overwhelming.

Nabil

Brothers and sisters
its so simple story
devil was angel be4 he didnt obey his God!
he Promised God he will make people dont obey the God to
and guess what ?
Jewish changed Torah and make Talmud and the obey the devil !
Christians change the bible and they obey the devil !
and couz God Love us so much he sent us the Quran !
and he saying Inside it he who is protect this book !
thats why u will find one and only one Quran !
God did try people be4 and they obey the devil as u know ?
there is no war btw religions ever !
its btw people obey God And People obey devil !
think about it !!!
its really up to u

I Believe there is no God Except one God And Mohammed ,Moses And Jesus Messengers of God

Erol

Here is the simple truth.
A man 600 years after Jesus lived, died and was resurrected came and attempted to convince the world he was a prophet. They tested him, found him false and rejected him. He goes on a temper tantrum, kills the ones who exposed him as false, claims they changed the story and then goes on to build a religion and empire based on lies. All the while committing horrible sins against God and people.

There is no God but Yahweh, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Anyone who claims otherwise is false, cursed and damned to hell.

boots

Why are you all arguing? It is a fact that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based on the same writings and are all monotheistic religions which essentially, believe in the same God.

Ahmad

With love , with Peace with Mercy , with truth , with Name of God and Only God i start my Comment ;

First i need to mentioned that For sure their is Muslims that commit sins and they are only born Muslims; that will go to hell ,

As well that their is Jews and Christians that Believe in GOD and dont steal or do any sins on earth that will go to heaven...


Simply : we who believe in One GOD and all his Messengers to Earth are Muslims

Simply :A Muslim to God means A God Believer

Simply : Life is too short to steal , kill , fight and mislead nations with their Holy Books

Simply : So Live to the after life , Live to love , give , Pray to our Creator , Observe and Learn from Our God Signs on Earth , Sky , Universe .

Simply Believe..

Mohammed Ismail Abdul Gani Khan

your name is Ahmad you kept that name its a muslim name, and you say christians dont steal dont do sins whatta joke wanna know the 10 most evil men {Emperor Hirohito of Japan, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Ivan IV of Russia, Vlad Ţepeş, Pol Pot, Leopold II of Belgium, Idi Amin Dada, Ruhollah Khomeini, Maximilien Robespierre, Attila The Hun} most of the them christian, George Bush 911 inside job Christian. thousands of christians accepting Islam why, so many celebrities, why cause its the truth and the way of life, you are christian bible says dont eat pork pig but you eat dont drink alcohol but you people do christian kids dont obey their parents whereas they are next god for us muslim and hindus, go stop the christians on accepting the truth Ahmed

Scotty

Mohammed Ismail Abdul Gani Khan..... :D Majority of the evil men are NOT Christian, they are either Atheist or from other religions. If we look at the modern day, the most evil(war torn countries) leaders are muslims. Dont you agree?Also WE ARE ALLOWED to eat PORK and ALCOHOL, so why are you lying? Did you even research before you are writing? :)I know for a fact, that many people accept Islam, but I know also for a fact, that many leave Islam. So dont be one sided here.

The evidence confirms the gospel of Jesus, not Islam.
Muslims make many claims for Islam, but there is no real proof that Islam is true. Anyone can make claims. Proving them is another matter.
Christians accept Jesus and His gospel, but reject Muhammad and Islam, on the basis of proof. The evidence is that:
* Jesus was sinless but Muhammad committed sin.
* Jesus fulfilled many Old Testament prophecies, but Muslims cannot prove Muhammad ever fulfilled any.
* Jesus made predictions of the future that came true, but Muhammad made none that were fulfilled and at least one that failed.
* Jesus performed miracles as attested by eyewitnesses, but there is no eyewitness proof that Muhammad ever did any miracle.
* Jesus arose from the dead as attested by witnesses, but Muslims do not even claim that Muhammad arose.
* Jesus\\\' teaching agrees with itself, but the teachings of Muhammad contradict themselves.
* Jesus\\\' teachings harmonize with, and His claims are substantiated by, all Divine revelation that went before Him. He and His followers never discredit previous revelation. Muhammad\\\'s teachings are not substantiated by prior revelation but contradict it, so Muslims repeatedly discredit prior revelations, while still claiming that those revelations were from God.
The evidence proves, not just that Muhammad was not a prophet like Jesus, but that in fact Muhammad was not a true prophet of God at all. His teaching bears none of the proofs of true prophetic teaching, but it does bear all the earmarks of being the work of a false prophet. (Matthew 7:15-23; 15:14; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; Acts 20:28-30; 1 John 4:1; 2 Timothy 4:2-4; Titus 1:9-14; 2 John 9-11; Romans 16:17,18; Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Peter chap. 2)
Philippians 2:9-11 - Jesus has a name that is above every name. To Him every knee will bow and every tongue confess. It follows that Jesus is greater than Muhammad and someday every Muslim will confess it. Everyone ought to confess it now while they have the opportunity to be saved.

Read more about the evidence:

http://www.gospelway.com/religiousgroups/islam.php

No name

hey foolish people stop fighting in the name of religion when there's only"ONE GOD" that we all worship..GOD is geat so leave up to him to decide who's wrong or right..

Joe

Look, people need to stop arguing back and forth and get to the real problem from which all else stems

Qur'an 3:3
"He [Allah] has verily revealed to you this Book [the Qur'an] in truth and confirmation of the Books revealed before, as indeed He had revealed the Torah and the Gospel."

Well…

What we know
~ in the Qu’ran we are taught that we are created, like the Jinn, to serve God. This seems a sharp contrast to the Bible books, in which we are told we are here so that we may know and love Him.


But even getting past that, we have the bigger problem
Torah – founded completely on the idea of Free Will
Gospel – founded completely on the idea of Free Will

…yet when it comes to this one:
Qu’ran – founded completely on idea of God’s Will?

Does the Quran teach everything is predetermined?
57:21 …that is the Grace of God, which He bestows on whom He pleases: and God is the Lord of Grace abounding. 57:22 No misfortune can happen on earth or in your souls but is recorded in a decree before We bring it into existence: That is truly easy for God
42:11 (He is) the Creator of the heavens and the earth: He has made for you pairs from among yourselves, and pairs among cattle: by this means does He multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto Him, and He is the One that hears and sees (all things). 42:12 To Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth: He enlarges and restricts. The Sustenance to whom He will: for He knows full well all things.
13:39 Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the Mother of the Book.
81:29 But ye shall not will except as God wills,- the Cherisher of the Worlds.
2:255 God! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
...(I could go on, but you get the idea. The Qu'ran leans toward there being no free will at all, and it is anything but clear in this aspect. Hence Muslims historically being split on this topic as well.)


Now, there are many questions which arise from this though. Like, say, what is the purpose of Prophets and Apostles if they ultimately cant do anything? That is, if we are predetermined to go to Heaven or Hell why would He send prophets acting as if they are giving us a choice? And I mean, (2:6) “As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe”… And that leads to yet another question: Why is like 40% of the Qu’ran warning people of what will happen to them if it wont convince any of them to believe anyway? If it doesn’t make a difference, might as well delete it all ~ the book would seem much more Godly without the constant gory feel anyway.


And I guess if you trust the Qu’ran, this does kind of make sense. I mean, God says He had sent messenger after messenger for 2,500+ years. Yet it resulted in zero followers by the time Muhammad was born? These great messengers did nothing for 2500+ years?

But that too would make sense if you believe there is no Free Will. No free will means God would have to decide to “corrupt” the Torah, and He (strangely) openly admits he created Christianity when he “deceived” people into thinking Jesus died on the cross.


Now one might then question why God would “corrupt” and “deceive”? That, of course, being one of the big reasons so many feel as though Muhammad was likely visited by Satan, not Gabriel.

And really, if you are honest with yourself, a strong argument can be made there ~ The Qu’ran states the books are (or at least were) all the same, when they just aren’t and really could never have been. It’s not as if you can just change a couple lines in the Bible to get the Qu’ran. There are huge, fundamental differences in which the entire thing would need to be completely re-written from start to finish.


Also, “corrupting” and “deceiving” are generally the actions of Demons, but these are the things which God would need to do for the Qu’ran to be correct. Now, the Bible teaches that Demons are nothing more then fallen Angels, while Angels (and in turn, Demons) were basically created to do that themselves – that is, serve God. So when you add those things up, the Qu’ran stating man was created to “serve God” sounds more like a Demon speaking then an Angel – it would especially be expected of Satan who was jealous of man to begin with and actually stated “I will be like the Most High.” (Isaiah 14:14) We know Satan wanted to be worshiped like the Lord though; so would it not be logical for him to create a new religion denouncing the other books in order for his to take their place and crown him (Satan) God instead?


It doesn’t even end there though. We also have things such as this:
(said by Muhammad) 53:29 Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world.

“Our Message”? Shouldn’t that read “Allah’s Message” or “His Message”? “Our Message” is blasphemous, and honestly I am fairly surprised no one changed it over the years. And yes, I know the Qu’ran claims itself to be unchanged and uncorrupted leaving no contradictions. We all know that just isn’t true though, and the book actually contradicts itself (with people strangely claiming this is apparently okay because God just changed his mind from whatever was said earlier in the book). But beyond that, even the oldest known copies of the Qu’ran show it has clearly been changed as well ~ sometimes so blatantly that it is re-written directly over the old text (as the picture at this site shows):
http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=58


But does it really come as a surprise to find such faults in a book attributed to “Muhammad, the Son of Abdullah” ~ which, you know, Abdullah just happens to mean “Servant Of Allah”. Kind of hard to argue Allah is really named after anything more then the Pagan God “Infidels” claimed he was when the supposed prophet’s father was named after that very Pagan God himself!

…oh, and that name happens to mean exactly what the so called prophet claims Man was created to do? Interesting, isn’t it? Where ever could Muhammad have gotten the name Allah to have his people serve?


One more thing, just in case there may still be doubts. Contrary to popular Muslim belief, the meaning of ‘Qu’ran’ is not recitation. It is actually derived from an Aramaic word, ‘Qariyun’, meaning a lectionary of scripture portions appointed to be read at divine service. Qu’ran contains most of the biblical stories but in a shorter form and is ‘a summary of the Bible to be read in service’. While Aramaic is a language that was the day-to-day language of Israel in the Second Temple period (539 BCE – 70 CE)


…SO, let’s see if we can paint a narrative with what we know. Lets say Satan (you know, the “Prince of Darkness”) approaches Muhammad as he is hanging out in that dark cave he likes to hang out in. Satan brings with him an ancient (to Muhammad at least) book (one titled “Qariyun”) and proceeds to tell him about how Infidels have butchered the Bible. Satan then tells Muhammad he is Gabriel that is talked about in this book, and he was sent from God himself in order for his greatest prophet to restore the Great Book back to what it once was. Of course Muhammad wouldn’t necessarily know what it once was because he was in an area which generally worshiped Pagan Gods, would he have ever even been in contact with the full Book (let alone be able to read it?) So Satan starts reading from this text, mixing in some of whatever else the evil one wanted, claiming it to be the real book which the Jews and Christians have long ago destroyed. Muhammad would possibly even believe this was a Divine Mission being presented to him, so there is nothing saying he really even lied. Satan stays with him, leading his ways and continuing to fill Muhammad’s head with Satan’s true mission – which has always been to be worshiped like God. The evil one could have even explained things like “yeah, your father was named after the true God, Allah himself”. If Muhammad knew the meaning already, or asked someone who did, he would know Abdullah literally means “Servant Of Allah” – and how could he argue with that? And as far as naming his new book… Well, you can’t change the original books then claim your book is the original books before they were corrupted if you don’t have the name of the thing right, so probably better stick to the name on the outside just to be sure. It’s not that difficult to see possibilities here, is it?


Anyway, my heart does go out to all followers of Allah. But know this, the Lord still loves you and you still have time to be accepted in His Grace!

jeff

what the heck? the biggest terrorist groups operating in the world are all muslims. muslims are all hypocrites. one and all. and hypocrites have only one place thats hell. muslims are curse to humanity. just look at yourself. you talk too much about self righteousness then please anyone of would tell me who allowed osama to kill people? many muslims are involved in sex drugs and booze and waste their time in spreading islam over internet. sex freaks sheikhs of arabs marry 50 times to get laid. at least western people are liberal. and i want a proof that quran has never been changed? just prove it quran has never been changed. i know none of you can prove this. give us a proof that god himself talked to mohammad? thats all a bullshit! get lost from here i can fucking show you many muslims converting to christians too and they realy regret for having born in muslim community. thats it! you need job you move to west and you blow up our places hypocrites!

Fellow friend

My friend why should we proof that the Quran isnt changed?? You should prove it has been changed by saying this crap.

We never said God(swt) talked to Muhammed(pbuh)but the Angel Gabriel did.

Who ever talks to god dies (Exodus 33:20) mentioned in your own bible. We muslims dont need to proof your faith your one does. You know insulting Muhammed(Pbuh) is insulting your own prophet and belief? it all have been just proved above what is your problem?

Don't let me begin with war on the christan side, the raping, kidnapping, criminals, cheating, poors etc.. etc..

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