Gen Thomas McInerney's solution to violence in Iraq
I listened with interest to Gen Thomas McInerney who was interviewed on Alan Nathan's talk radio show Battle Line. He suggested that the Iraqi government needs to instigate some real deterrence for al-Qaeda and others who are becoming suicide bombers. He said this deterrence needs to be something that will get the attention of the terrorists. His solution?
Bury each of the terrorists with pig entrails.
This would prevent them from entering their heaven. No heaven. No 72 virgins. Would that equal 'no more suicide bombers?' This would certainly be a deterrence that Muslims would understand.
In the past readers here at Right Truth have posted their own suggestions of what should be done. Let's all get together here and make suggestions. Maybe Washington will listen. (Naw, I didn't really believe that, heh.) But we can sure have fun using our imaginations. Think people! Tell me what YOU would do. Can you top General McInerney's suggestion??? Talk to me. Let's have it ALL here in one article!
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Rasta (and Debbie)...I find it refreshing to find other conservative minded folks who see the evolution of Iraq's democracy going in the wrong direction.
http://islamanazi.com/2007/04/23/military-rule-for-iraq/#comments
I don't know that I seriously agree with a militarized government in Iraq...afterall, we deposed one military dictator a few years ago. As for a cleric-led country, now that's an entirely different outlook.
The objective has been to have an elected government in Iraq. Whether led by Sadr or someone else, an elected government headed by a cleric is understandable. If we end up with a military run country after all of this, then what was it all for?
Posted by: Stormwarning | April 23, 2007 at 03:41 PM
I think there might be a new power play happening that holds the answer. Sent you a trackback to it. Iraq may be converted from its failed democracy to military rule, re: my post at http://islamanazi.com/2007/04/23/military-rule-for
Rastaman
www.islamanazi.com
Posted by: Rastaman | April 23, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Oh Thomas! I don't bore you. But your response does indicate that you have no concept of our enemy. You have no concept of why the recent expansion of al Qaeda's franchising, for example in Algeria, or in Somalia, or likely Morocco. Read it Thomas, "nizam, la tanzim." Maybe do a bit of reading on "Da’wat al-muqawamah al-islamiyyah al-‘alamiyyah."
You can sit on your easy chair, listen to your music, and never have an appreciation for counterterrorism issues. You would rather read sites that I can no longer read.
Posted by: Stormwarning | April 22, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Yes SW, the truth is painful for those of you who do not believe but someone has to say it and it might as well be me.
Yawn, now I am moving on to more stimulating conversations.
Posted by: Thomas Hamilton | April 22, 2007 at 08:43 PM
The problem with people like me is that I "fail to identify the enemy and you fail to admit we are at war."
Holy Batman! You obviously know nothing about me (other than the fact that you and I don't agree on everything).
Aside from blogs (with the notable exception of Debbie's), and some history about past wars, just what have you read about THIS WAR? What have you read about al Qaeda and the War on Terror? My guess is that you've spent little time doing that (or maybe you concentrate your time on stuff that blankets all of the religion of Islam with that "religion of peace" BS).
This is a war unlike any other that we have ever fought. It goes way beyond the guerilla war in Vietnam...and it goes way beyond any quotes from any of our former generals from other wars can "teach" you.
Start by reading al-Suri's treatise. Then perhaps anything that you can get your hands on re: the "Fourth Generation War."
You, Sir, have me 100% WRONG, but then again, alot of people who think that their way is the only way, will never see "eyes to eye" with me. Luckily, you and others like you will never make policy.
[the preceding edited to be respectful]
Posted by: Stormwarning | April 22, 2007 at 08:18 PM
SW, the problem with people like you is that you fail to identify the enemy and you fail to admit we are at war. You would rather sit by and make nice and be content that peacemeal half measures will defeat these Islamic bastards.
Might I remind you that in WW2 we leveled entire cities and we did use nuclear weapons which I might add resulted in a quicker end to that war and the saving of countless lives on both sides.
The enemy we face today is far more dangerous than the Japanese, in fact after Pearl Harbor it was Japan's hope that we would tire of the war and that we would try and negotiate a peace with them. The enemy today holds no hope of negotiation. They want to destroy every fiber of our being and take away everything we hold dear. They are willing to patiently bide their time until our leaders grow tired of the struggle and then they will slowly and relentlessly make their move.
I am content with my beliefs and I am right by the way. I have no doubt.
I will leave you with some quotes by General William T. Sherman:
"War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want."
"I would make this war as severe as possible..."
"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out."
"If the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war, and not popularity seeking."
"War is, at its best, barbarism."
"Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and defeat."
Posted by: Thomas Hamilton | April 22, 2007 at 07:43 PM
Thomas, whether or not you really believe what you wrote, I believe what I wrote. And without any specific source, my EXPERIENCE tells me that anxiety responses to terrorism (desecrating the bodies of terrorists), will do nothing to help our counterterrorism efforts.
And unfortunately, Thomas, I actually do believe you, as dissonant as that thought might be.
Posted by: Stormwarning | April 22, 2007 at 05:15 PM
I dunno, fear can be a great thing. I have always believed that when someone raises their hand against the US that our response should be so horrible that nobody would dare cross our path again.
For instance, if Iran captured and kidnapped some of our sailors in international waters, simply nuke one of their cities each and every day until the hostages were released.
Make it clear that any further actions from anyone else would be met with the same response.
The world would be horrified and outraged. I don't give a damn. We are at war. It is time we started acting like it. I don't give a hoot in hell for what the rest of the world thinks.
I think burying these Islamic bastards with pig entrails is a good start.
Now don't come on here and tell me you really can't believe I feel this way, BECAUSE I DO!
Posted by: Thomas Hamilton | April 22, 2007 at 04:54 PM
Michael (and Storm) you make good points. You are right about the bodies, and the United States has always taken special care to bury each Muslim according to their laws and rituals.
The comments by General McInerney simply express the frustration that many Americans feel.
Posted by: Debbie | April 22, 2007 at 08:42 AM
Yes, the jihadists are violent and cruel, and yes, they have publicly beheaded Westerners. Simply, though, desecration of the bodies would only heighten the venom and hatred, and increase the violence of the jihad...it would make us worse than them.
Posted by: Stormwarning | April 22, 2007 at 06:58 AM
And here is where the moral issues start...
I agree that desecrating the terrorists' bodies (burying them wrapped in pig entrails, or soaking them with urine) could be a deterrent to terrorist violence...
However, what would it do to us?
I can't speak for Christians, but I know that the Jewish tradition abhors desecration of the body- any body. Even when a person is hanged for murder, the Torah enjoins us not to leave his body out for even one hour longer than needed, and to bury him quickly. Having seen al-Qaeda videos of decapitated prisoners, I can truly understand how such a prohibition of desecration can help prevent us from becoming utter barbarians.
I think, instead, that their prisoners should simply disappear into "supermax" facilities: underground cells, no windows, 200 watt lights from 8am to 8pm, no exercise time, no koran, no one speaking Arabic to them, a menu of bacon and water, to the end of time.
When they die, though, bury them quickly.
Posted by: michael | April 22, 2007 at 03:54 AM
Never happen. Some Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi types would be afraid we might hurt some Muslim's feelings.
Posted by: Thomas Hamilton | April 21, 2007 at 11:43 PM
good one Debbie!..o yes lets think! :)
Posted by: Angel | April 21, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Bury each of the terrorists with pig entrails...
Debbie, I like this. It's past time to get freakin' tough in the middle-east.
Unleash the greatest fighting machine ever and peace will surely follow...or else.
Posted by: Butch | April 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM