British terror, dhimmitude, multiculturalism

Lord Thomas Murray Elder, a member of the British House of Lords, is also chancellor of the Scotland-based Al Maktoum Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies in Dundee.

Al-Maktoum Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies was born from the esteemed vision of his Highness Sheikh Hamdan Bin Rashid Al Maktoum. His Highness Sheikh Hamdan officially opened the Institute on May 6, 2002, in the presence of Mr. George Foulkes MP, Minister of State at Al-Maktoum Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies the Scotland Office, representing the British government.

Lord Provost John Letford, Lord Provost of Dundee and the official representative of Her Majesty the Queen was also present. Many senior figures and dignitaries from both United Kingdom and United Arab Emirates were present at the ceremony. [snip]

HH Sheikh Hamdan is the patron of the Institute while HE Mr. Mirza Al Sayegh is Chairman of the Institute Board. The Lord Elder of Kirkoaldy is the Chancellor and Professor Abd al-Fattah El-Awaisi is the Principal and Vice-Chancellor.

James Gordon Brown and Lord Murray Elder are long time friends and schoolmates, having attended school together in Kirkcaldy. PM Brown chose 41-year-old David Miliband as Foreign Secretary.

... the BBC's world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds said that Brown's choice signaled a "potential shift in British foreign policy to one in which criticism of the United States and Israel is not off the agenda - as it was under Tony Blair." Reynolds said that within the cabinet, Miliband had criticised the Israeli regime's attack on Hezbollah in Lebanon last summer (IRNA)

The relationship between Dundee and Dubai has continued, with visits back and forth, "memorandums of understanding and agreements have been signed" and certain achievements having been reached:

... attained exactly one year after the Institute was officially opened, was the recitation of the Holy Quran at the Kirking Ceremony of the Scottish Parliament. On May 6, 2003, the Holy Quran was read at the Kirking Ceremony for the first time in history by Mr. Khalid El-Awaisi, President of the Al-Maktoum Institute Student Society.

You can bet the "exchange" is a one way street, with Islam being incorporated into the British society and nothing 'Western', or 'Christian', going into Dubai.

There are three unique research centres at the Institute; Centre for Islamic Jerusalem Studies, Centre for the study of Islam and Muslims in Scotland and Centre for Editing Islamic Texts and Manuscripts.

In April 2007 Lord Thomas Murray Elder said "that the legacy of misunderstanding from the previous colonial era is no longer relevant to today's world." He was in Abu Dhabi speaking at a symposium on 'Multiculturalism.'

... talked about the dialogue between Islam and the West, challenges and opportunities of globalisation and the remedy of Islamophobia in the West, among other issues. [snip]

... I think between Muslim people and people in the West there is much less divide than what you think. [snip]

I think in many countries we are finding ways of enabling people to keep their own cultural identity.

Question to Lord Elder: What do you think is the remedy for Islamophobia?

I think there is mutual incomprehension sometimes and the case is that there are a lot of people in the West that do not understand the fundamentals of Islam.

In my country, the United Kingdom there is a big Muslim community. It is incumbent on us and on them to work together to make sure we all work harmoniously. I am not saying that the Muslim community should lose their identity or their culture ... certainly not. (read it all at WebIslam)

That is the mistake that the UK leaders are making. They allow unlimited immigration of Muslims into their country and they do not require them to assimilate. In fact, the UK does the opposite. They have allowed the Muslims to change the British culture to adapt to Islam. Also if there is any antisemitism in Brown or his cabinet officers, this will become obvious in the near future.

Read this with the two foiled car bomb attacks yesterday in London and the successful car bomb attack at Glasgow today. The terrorists were shouting "Allah. Allah. Allah." The UK is under an alert for an imminent attack. The United States airports and other transit is under alert for potential terror attacks.

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Comments

[ryan]

I apologise for the Nazi bomb as you called it Trinity, it was uncalled for.

As for "tolerance", I think we need to be more specific. Killing innocent civilians is absolutely unacceptable - and I condemn it unreservedly.

What I object to is the conflation of Islam and terror. One does not imply the other: not all terrorists are Muslim (witness e.g. the IRA) and not all Muslims are terrorists (as if that needs pointing out). Can we not acknowledge that there are other factors at work here? It is my view that the most effective way to minimise the risk of terrorist attacks on the US and UK would begin with a more thorough and complex understanding of today's global political situation.

Demonising the purported enemy is an age-old temptation, but one I feel must be avoided if we are to have any hope of moving forwards in tackling terror.

[Debbie]

Trinity, no problem on the copy/paste. Happy 4th

[Trinity]

Let me say that my double paste there at the end of my comments was unintended, I apologize Debbie. I pasted what was said in Debbie's post by accident twice (as she commented on what was said.)

Now Ryan,
Racial profile, yes, I said it. The Nazi 'bomb' was not necessary. I am not saying round up all the Muslims, I am saying we know that that those terror thugs stew in the zealous Mosques, we know where they are and who they are but we do little or get sued. IN the meantime, London burns with car bombs. Our government is afraid of being sued. Timid leadership is the problem. This is not a legal case or a fear of Hitler case..it is a war.
I am tired of my mother who is 80, getting nabbed constantly by TSA told to 'step aside' in airports. That is what I am calling attention to. Tolerance. My Goodness. I have had this line thrown at me over and over again. I am intolerant of Terror. Either fight this war or not. I am intolerant of beheadings, I am intolerant of kidnappings and bombings. I am intolerant of Islamofacists.

I am glad Debbie you found that AIFD acceptable. I have heard Jassir speak on Mark Levin's show numerous times and he is a voice that most be heard. He speaks with disdain towards those that have destroyed Islam and with great respect for the freedoms that he has in this nation.

Sorry again for the double paste there at the end..not intentional.

[Stormwarning]

PS Ernesto, I was wrong. William is second in line, so I guess that means Charles is first (I thought that I had read that he wouldn't ever be King).

[Debbie]

The American Islamic Forum for Democracy actually appears to be a group who are speaking out against Islamic terror. They state:

"stand against the religious fanatics who exploit the religion of Islam for a nihilistic, anti-American anti-Western war. In fact a major component in the war on terror is the intellectual deconstruction of the claim Islamo-fascists have upon the religion of Islam. AIFD was formed as an unmistakable expression of American liberty and freedom in an attempt to take back the faith of Islam from the demagoguery of the Islamo-fascists."

http://www.aifdemocracy.org/about/

[Debbie]

Thanks for the great comments everybody. Rastaman, I thought your article was great and as I said, I can't argue with it. The truth is the truth.

I'm feeling good, thanks to all that asked.

On the UK terrorism, at least 5 have been arrested now, I heard one report that two were "doctors". But I can't find anything else to verify that.

[Stormwarning]

Ryan, clearly racial profiling is a misnomer in the case of profiling for Muslims as "they" (Muslims) come in a number of different sizes, colors and races.

Ernesto, Prince Charles is never going to be King of England and therefore is not the heir to the throne.

[ryan]

Trinity, how would racial profiling relate to Islam and its followers? The Nazis simlarly confused race and religion in holding Judaism to be a racial type. Also, I was surprised at your distaste for the idea of tolerance when the American Islamic Forum Democracy site you recommend promotes tolerance as one of its core values.

Everyone, if you think Islam is the cause of terrorism, then why haven't Muslims been bombing Western countries for centuries? The Qu'ran doesn't prescribe hatred for the United States or the United Kingdom - so maybe the reason for these terrorist acts is something other than faith. Do you think the foreign policy of Western governments, for example, has anything to do with what is happening at the moment?

Holding faith to be the sole cause of terrorism presents a simple picture which allows the UK and USA to deny any involvement or responsibility for the evident contempt in which some Muslims hold those countries - a picture which is at odds with the interventionist foreign policies currently in favour with the USA and UK. This denial of responsibility prevents our governments from dealing with terrorism as effectively and peacefully as is possible.

[Ernesto Ribeiro]

When the heir of the throne is under the straight influence of muslim spiritual masters, intelligent enough for make him an obedient and docile disciple, then England is prepared for give up his last residues of national pride before the Islamic moral blackmail.

Prince Charles appears as a simple patron, protector of the art and of the Islamic culture in his country, but it's just a facade.

He is personally linked to an esoteric organization founded by Frithjof Schuon, the Muslim mystic, Swiss of birth, that upon come back from an initiation journey to the Algeria in the 1950's and promised convert the whole Europe in the term of a generation.

Schuon died, but his work, extremely well made, continues through dedicated successors.

[Rastaman]

Good morning Debbie. Happy Sunday and I hope you're feeling better than yesterday.

About that last comment I left on my blog that you responded to, I just didn't want you thinking I was FOR that opium problem, which is the way I read... misread... your previous comment. That post was written in a pretty sarcastic tone, can't deny it.

Now to check out your Sunday reading list.

Rasta

[michael]

the successful car bomb attack at Glasgow today. The terrorists were shouting "Allah. Allah. Allah."
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You would think, after something like that, that the Brits might acknowledge that thre is a terrorism issue among muslims....

[Debbie]

Trinity, thanks for the link I will check it out. You state the bottom line, "there are a lot of people in the West that do not understand the fundamentals of Islam."

Rastaman, you make a very good point about "part is hob-nobbing with foreign royalty, part of it is the Arabian mystique that still permeates British thinking,". I think that is the situation with Lord Elder and his kind. It looks good on the resume, to be Chancellor of the Islamic Center and hob-nob with the elite in the Arab world.

Nanc, I heard one "expert" on TV say, "it wasn't Muslims, it was just a group of people who hate the West." Geesh

[nanc]

let's face it - it's not the girl scouts, or the hindus, or the local knitting club doing these horrendous deeds.

IT'S MUSLIMS! when they finally get it, i hope it's not too late for the rest of us.

words have an impact - i wish our leaders would start choosing the correct ones. start calling a spade a spade, instead of a shovel.

[Rastaman]

Me, I'm pro-intolerance. Just call me Islamophobic, Fear of Islam, you betcha. That Creed Out Of Hell is plenty scarey.

The Jap kamikaze pilots died for their emperor, and not too many were willing to do that. But the muslims die for their god and far too many are willing. We see this every day with them turning themselves into red mists.

The British "elites" are in bed with the muzzies and have been for a long time. Part of it is a bunch of good old boy crap, part is hob-nobbing with foreign royalty, part of it is the Arabian mystique that still permeates British thinking, a 19th Century leftover.

It all adds up to behaving like a bunch of simpering idiots trying to be friends of the cobra. The poison is fatal.

Rastaman
www.islamanazi.com

[Trinity]

I think there is mutual incomprehension sometimes and the case is that there are a lot of people in the West that do not understand the fundamentals of Islam.

Sounds too similiar to our libs trying to 'elite' us into submission. The British government and indeed all of the EU are facing a crisis of national identity with their free flowing immigration. They are paying the price. France, with their unemployed Muslim population burning cars, England with (besides the obvious) overextending the free rights of expression to the Muslim community only to draw more division within their own society. It seems that the extremists are simply using our very own freedoms against us. They are smarter than we give them credit for sometimes; it is time to racial profile, knock off the 'egg shell walking' around the protection of Islam and deal with the problem. The root of it all, the bastardization of their faith. I do not need any elite fool to tell me I don't understand or that I am intolerant. I see the results of their tolerance and have all day on Fox.
A significant voice in the Muslim community committed to ending terrorism and brainwashing of his own is M.Zuhdi Jasser, MD founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. I encouage you all to take a look at the site and read what he has written. This is what we need. Not "liberal old men" explaining intolerance to me. Jasser's link ( he has been featured on Mark Levin's show several times and is an amazing voice of reason)
I think there is mutual incomprehension sometimes and the case is that there are a lot of people in the West that do not understand the fundamentals of Islam.

I think there is mutual incomprehension sometimes and the case is that there are a lot of people in the West that do not understand the fundamentals of Islam.

http://www.aifdemocracy.org/about/

God bless the Britons and Scots, we are with you.