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Comments

incognito

How sad..
damned if you do and damned if you don't.. figuratively and literally!

Angel

sounds intriguing Debbie! :)

Butch

Debbie,

I finished reading the book this afternoon. Great review! Right on points! Mr Luttrell consistently nailed the MSM throughout his book.

That group of SEALs were REAL American heroes.

Here's hoping this book makes it's way to the big screen. Somehow, I doubt that it will...

Debbie

Wasn't it a great book. It's getting good reviews, even on some sites I would not expect favorable comments. As Incognito says, damed if you do and damed if you don't. That's the situation these men, heroes, were in. The result the deaths of at least 19 Americans.

I'm looking for the next book for the Book Club. I'll let you know.

Harold

If you liked Lone Survivor, perhaps you would enjoy Inside the Danger Zone, the story of the U.S. military in the 1987-1988 Persian Gulf.

Harold

If you liked Lone Survivor, perhaps you would enjoy Inside the Danger Zone, the story of the U.S. military in the 1987-1988 Persian Gulf.

Debbie

Harold, I am looking for another book to read and for the Book Club to read. I'll check this one out. Thanks.

bob ingram

wonder if it is a true story or made up to many mistakes for a trained seal to get wrong a real seal anyway not bush propaganda

Debbie

Yes, this is a true story. Just this week, Lt. Michael P. Murphy, member of the seal team, was awarded for first medal of honor for Afghanistan. What a brave group of men.

Rob

Lone Survivor has got to be one of the poorest reads I have managed to make it through in quite a while, totally full of jingoistic dogma which I find offensive and way off mark – really, really distracts.

As with the other reviews one will find on this book I do not wish to denigrate the lost souls of Seal Team 10 - these guys put up a helluva fight and I have the utmost respect for them – truly highlights the superior training, however, having said that the book boils down to maybe seventy pages - from the insertion to full contact compromised, to the loss of the Team, the rest of the book is wasted pulp – blather!!.

Those seventy pages left me filled with questions relating to the Team’s SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) such as why a four man team was used when the intel was telling them there were up to a couple hundred hostiles in the area. The six man team has repeatedly been shown to be more effective – two more guns may have made the difference, especially if a SAW and grenade launcher had been included (google Squad Automatic Weapon & M 203 grenade launcher), a few white phosphorous rounds might have bought some breathing room.

Marcus describes the reconnaissance point as a promontory which is the last place where someone hiding wants to be, they were on a ridge with at least one high speed trail, there was at least one hut in the area, the way it is written when they turned the goatherds loose they nonchalantly followed them up the mountain to another hide in full view of any observer. This whole section made me think fubar. SOP dictates the Team leader to do a fly over rather than just a photo and map study – this may have been out of the question for one reason or another, regardless there was no mention of an E&E plan (escape and evasion) and why did comms fail? Blah blah blah – one thing after another that may or may not have been done properly but the book definitely reads like it wasn’t. Why is there no mention of lessons learned from Mako-30 and the death of Neil Roberts? the skeptic in me wonders if the media is scrambling for another Jessica Lynch story coming into an election year.

One thing that the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts have in common is the difficulty in remaining undetected during reconnaissance missions (Bravo Two Zero for instance 1st gulf), patrol technique has got to be highly modified, one would think this may have been addressed in detail or at least hypothetically somewhere in the book, maybe this is possibly classified - one would do well to study the movements of the snow leopard native to the mountains of Afghanistan, camouflage is critical - not a mention? The pattern exists for alpine rock –google roggenwolf.

I don’t know, the way the book reads is smelly to me –not killing the goatherds was the proper choice - it appears that SOP was not adhered to. There are many experiences to learn from – Soviet in particular but the British experience in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as well – both were losers, we in turn shall be a loser - they and we do not understand or appreciate the tribal mentality - we are the bull in the china shop. Please read the Seven Pillars of Wisdom and Gertrude Bell -Queen of the Desert, also many accounts from climbing expeditions to this area have good insight into the Pashtun mentality.

Prosit absent Companions,

RH

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