Stick a fork in him, McCain's done

McCain's house of cards has been rapidly falling over the last few weeks, but todays news that his presidential campaign co-Chairman has been charged with soliciting sex (actually offering to perform oral sex for $20.00) on a male undercover police officer.

... a Florida House of Representatives member was arrested yesterday and charged with soliciting a male undercover police officer.

Bob Allen is also John McCain's presidential campaign co-Chairman and was charged with second degree misdemeanor after falling into a sting operation to root out sex predators in Florida.

The news was met with grim horror on the State's House Agriculture & Environment Appropriations Committee, Environmental Regulation Committee, State Infrastructure Council and the Utilities & Telecommunications Committee where Allen has been serving.

A spokesman for the Spaceport & Technology Committee of which his Chairman said today: "We are dumbstruck." (source)

This is bad, really bad. Gay, sex, money, police, arrest ... not good for McCain's campaign. Does it strike anyone that $20.00 sounds cheap??? I wouldn't know about these things, heh.
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Comments

[Grouch at Right Truth]

It ain't over. After listening to McCain belly up to climate change freaks in his latest speech, it will be a cold day in hell before I cast a vote for him.

[Debbie]

Yep, I was wrong. (There's a first time for everything heh). Seriously, I was wrong and I will admit it. Wish I had been right.

Whip me, beat me, ..

[TA]

Wow, you sure got this one wrong.

Here's what I posted on your site on July 14, 2007:

I wouldn’t count a former Vietnam POW out just yet. I would be very surprised if McCain dropped out anytime soon. If he does quit, he might just “pull a Lieberman”. Not really, but that would certainly make things interesting.

In November 2003, the media was buzzing about Kerry's "failing" campaign for the Democratic nomination just months before the Iowa caucuses:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102807,00.html

[Freedom Now]

Thats like saying a person is destroyed when they have to go to traffic court.

[Brian Stewart]

Freedom now:But that approach is the stasis quo approach(not status). Laws happen in a social context and our current mentality is zero tolerance for an infraction of the law and permanent scarring of the one nabbed. The war on drugs is one of the more mindless unquestioned wars on our own people that is massively increasing our Prison Planet. Worse its putting the mentally challenged in the worst possible place, cages supervised by gaurds who hate them. It takes a huge amount of money, people, and resources to get laws overturned and for our society that doesn't like to throw any laws out almost impossible. Call me crazy, but whenever I watch cops tv I am amazed at how possession of any amount of a banned drug is license for the well fed, athletic, well trained, societal equipped cops to just demolish all dignity of the individual involved who is often some shirtless semi or full lunatic who looks just ill to me, not criminal. I am sure the witches burned at Salem had some kind of a trial with some kind of evidence, testimoney, given to excuse societal sanctioned murder. What you are saying is we live in a very easy to adjust society, all you need to do is throw your hat in the ring, but that is totally contrary to what we are seeing. Nothing really changes. Case in point---4 years of Bush 1, 8 of Clinton 1, 8 of Bush 2, and now it looks likely 4 years of Clinton 2. That is 20-24-28 consecutive years of the same two familys running America out of a country of 300 million. How can that be a flexible democratic free society. If this isn't a fixed and rigged policital system what is? No, you or I cannot just throw our hat's in the ring and get ourselves elected to high office. This is such a popular believe among conservatives, that simply doesn't occur anymore, if it ever did. When you say you don't have any problem with the government enforcing the law, I can only reply "who's government?" They have never asked my input into any of "thier" laws. Here in LA, I saw a sign in the park warning regarding a specific nuanced ordinance, and it was ordinance 12,879, meaning there were already 12,879 ordinances on the city books. Yes!

[Freedom Now]

Brian,

I am far from uninformed and quite aware of the “Prison Planet” scenario. Personally, I am against crimes with no victims (ie drugs and prostitution). Just because I feel that way doesn’t mean that I should feel that my opinion is more important than how the majority defines crime. These laws were made a very long time ago by well meaning people who believe that they are protecting society from real problems. Since I don’t like these laws I can vote for representatives who I feel represent my point of view, I can peacefully protest and write about the subject on my blog (if I felt the need).

Less than two decades ago it was illegal to burn flags, slightly over two decades before that there were Jim Crow laws, during WWII Japanese civilians were interned, etc… You get the picture the further out we go.

Our freedoms have increased with time. I don’t have a problem with the government enforcing the law. We cannot have order without it.

[Brian Stewart]

Freedom now, well its your country too. But I don't know what your using for a reading list or if you have gone out and really lived among the many people in our country and opened your eyes and ears. One example, you say we are freer now than we have ever been, well go tell that to the 2.4 million of your fellow citizens sitting in our prison cells and the other 7 million on probation and parole and the other 7 million in process somewhere in the crimal justice system. Just get out and really go among the people. Being simply a cheerleader for your team doesn't mean your grounded in our national reality.

[Freedom Now]

I dont know what you are talking about.

We have more freedom now than we have ever had in our entire history.

[Brian Stewart]

Freedom now, I am part of that base too, and where I grew up on the East Coast they don't put McCain to the kind of religious agenda tests your "Republican Base" does. We are secular in our politics and every bit as Republican as it gets. The problem is the Republican party has been hijacked by a media savvy vocal minority with a rather perverse and undemocratic agenda. We do not exclude people because of their interpretation of the fine print. There is no repeat after me or else. Women value their freedom to choose from time immemorial. As an American I have to respect their liberty. Personally I would blame the would-be fathers as totally irresponsible and dishonerable. But women can go to church, they can pray, they can discuss this personally with God and Jesus. Its a very personal thing and as a Christian we must fight the Roman temptation to rule and control everything that walks. So rather than omit your narrow you better be in lockstep agenda of what one can think or do I am simply challenging it. The world is a big place and you guys are out-of-touch and not representing the Republican party well at all. In fact, you are costing the party big time as the next elections will show. I am a centrist Republican and that is a good place to be.

[Brian Stewart]

Debbie, if what your saying is accurate beyond the usual second-hand takes on what really occurred it makes the man sound like he was in a delerium and acting that way. I can't even imagine what I assume to be an educated person with some travel and media experience solicting strangers aggressively with $20 willy nilly all over the place. Seriously the $20 doesn't even make sense as that will only buy someone a grilled hamburger plate, a small green salad, and a piece of pie for desert and a candy bar to go with a $3 tip. What is that? It sounds like a stereotype out of some bad tv movie. But I do find there is always a way to frame what "our" police and criminal justice system does as automatically appropriate against our "evil doers". Many officers have to fight violent felons at great risk to themselves and have families depending on them doing this safely so this is not to put them down. But our overly abundent laws, zero tolerance policies, politically ambitious people at the top creates an overly regulated atmosphere and general paranoia and hysteria that compresses our freedoms. If he was that whacky he has personal problems way beyond what we see as the problem. Again, a city fine would have handeled the matter by putting an end to it. I still see no reason to put him in jail for a year or ruin his life and reputation. He may have personal work to do, but as one of your fellow citizens and taxpayers I have no desire to micro-manage his situation, nor pay for it in court and prison time. Personally I sense something else was going on with him and you seem to be falling into viewing it through a moral and criminal lense in fixed mode. In my book a crime hasn't been committed till someone has been hurt in a demonstrable way. I just wish Americans would stop demonizing one another and approach things in a less draconian fashion.

[Debbie]

Brian Stewart, Americans are upset with McCain because of his stance on immigration, not his support of President Bush.

On Bob Allen's arrest, he was in a public park, in the public restrooms, soliciting innocent men who were there in the park with their families.

The policeman was not there to trap this man, he happened to be there with his partner in plain clothes and saw Allen trolling the bathroom facilities, going in and out. The policeman was curious as to what was going on, so he sent into a stall like he was going to use the bathroom himself, and Allen approached him.

There was no entrapment here.

[Freedom Now]

Brian you are completely ignoring the fact that the Republican base considers McCain to be a RINO.

Your omission of how Republicans feel about McCain is glaring.

[Brian Stewart]

2nd post. The unfortunate aid arrested in Florida for a $20 solicitation whose life, job, family, has been ruined and who faces a year sentence in prison with a bunch of hardened street gang psychopaths, should be a wake up call to the rest of us Americans to get some laws changed. Its absolutely cruel and twisted to do this to someone over an obvious personal matter any self respecting adult would not even want to know about. America is losing its privacy and freedom to just be who they are. To think we pay police officers to go around essentially entrapping people over their adult non-violent sexual desires is bizarre. Why are we not evolving socially as a nation and why are we persisting in being so mean? Fellow citizens you are scary. The bill of rights taken literally would protect people, but its being more and more ignored and made obsolete by continuing to put more and more laws on the books and worse expanding the concept of the law and the state to invade peoples lives in ever yet creative ways. When did we become such a control freak nation. Lastly its a total waste of taxpayer dollars to even prosecute this case in court and a true waste of limited money to incarcerate him. If the city doesn't like this behavior on its streets than issue a fine and be done with it. That will accomplish the same result without meanly destroying a persons life over what any normal person wouldn't even want to know about.

[Brian Stewart]

What is happening to McCain is emblematic of what will happen to anyone remotely supporting Bush policys. Rightly or wrongly the American public has turned a tin ear on Iraq. They feel misled and let down and now belive anything said is just more spin that is designed to cynically manipulate them. They have had enough an it doesn't bode well for the Republican party and frankly they have only themselves to blame for the mess on so many issues. Ultimately it comes down to poor management on multiple levels and a totally neglectful domestic policy concerning issues vital to the people's happiness and sense of liberty. Everyone can see the constant politicalization of every domestic agency and a growing arrogance on the part of the administration for the very people its been elected, mainly on the fear card, to govern. Separate from the mixed results of the war on terror and the horror show in Iraq, the constant spin from the Administration has gotten insulting. Even if they have us in the right war, nobodies buying it. McCain by supporting their policy simply turned everybody off. Plus people could see him bowing down to spin himself in our vicious pre-election vetting process. I think it all started in that famous press conference where Bush put him down and McCain didn't challenge Bush right then and there.

[Debbie]

Brad, I got the trackback. They don't show up immediately, but are moderated.

Thanks so much.

[BRAD Marston]

the rest Okay, there is no homepage link...I use haloscan and you don't but I think you know what I meant...oh...I see the trackback did show up so it is a moot point. I am commenting again after reading so many of the largely anti-mccain comments.

IMHO "You can't always get what you want." Governing is often about compromise. McCain-Feingold is a good example. As bloggers we want our voices heard. Why else would we be blogging? I certainly would like to have as much influence as say George Soros...but unfortunately my money starts with an M not a B. Yes, there is a good argument that any speech needs to be answered with more speech not less speech. However, I find itfunny that most conservatives weren;t too concerned about McCain-Feingold until the Democrats started out-raising us in hard money.

McCain-Kennedy is much the same. Sometimes we have to take what we can get. To quote one of my favorite Broadway showtunes..."I'd rather have 50% of him, or any percent of him than all of anybody else at all."

That's how I feel about John and his view of governance.

[BRAD Marston]

Hey Debbie,

I respectfully disagree that McCain is done. I sent a tyou thinkrackback from my post McCain...Down but not out. Full disclosure...I am working for McCain2008 as a volunteer. (They can't cut my salary.) If the trackback doesn't show up click on the homepage link as I would love to know what you and others think.

BTW...my doctor is amazed at my healing powers....I may actually have to go back to work UUUUGGGH.

[Debbie]

John, thank you for your comment. You don't see any hate in the ARTICLES here at Right Truth. Perhaps some in the comments. I have great respect for John McCain, for his service to this country, for the torture he suffered.

Having said that, I have never thought he was the best choice for president of the US. His stand on immigration was wrong, IMO.

He has been strong on the war on terror. But he has not conducted his campaign properly. He had tons of money and squandered it. He made some very pathetic statements that made him look like a senile old geezer.

If he can't run a proper campaign, spend funds provided to him by hard working tax payers, then that's not a good sign of how he will run the country.

As to this campaign aid, it has nothing to do with McCain directly.

Please come back, read other articles and you will see that no hate is included in my articles.

[Thomas F Anderson]

I wouldn’t count a former Vietnam POW out just yet. I would be very surprised if McCain dropped out anytime soon. If he does quit, he might just “pull a Lieberman”. Not really, but that would certainly make things interesting.

In November 2003, the media was buzzing about Kerry's "failing" campaign for the Democratic nomination just months before the Iowa caucuses:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102807,00.html

[John]

The sins of McCain's campaign chair seem fairly mild compared with banging hookers and coke dealing. Or is the problem that they were boys. He's done, but it has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with faulty strategic judgements, and poor management. Given this guy's service to the country the hate being poured out from many of these posts seems a bit over the top. In any case 08 is not likely to be a Republican year.

[David S. Levine]

How do I hate him? Let me count the ways! I hate him for his collaboration with Feingold which resulted in speech restrictions. I hate him for comparing good men like Falwell and Robertson to anti-Semitic scum like Jackson and Sharpton. I hate him for his vote against tax cuts. I hate him for his collaboration with Teddy Kennedy to allow those who break our laws a reward. I hate him for the New York Times' adoration of him--a full page Sunday editorial by the paper run by one of the most evil families in America--perhaps surpassed by the Kennedys. For all of the foregoing and for lying with society's scum, I HATE JOHN McCAIN, and I vote in Republican primaries!

[Ted]

McCain has no chance, he is to old, and had too many medical issues. It is time for you Republicans to check out Ron Paul. Probably the only Republican that Democrats would vote for.

[RICHARD EAST L..A.]

Being a maverick only played well with Tim Russert and Chris Matthews, but it got old and not too cute with the conservative base of the GOP. No more Gang of 14, McCain-Feingold or Immigration foolishness. YAY!

[Freedom Now]

Dear you know who,

Ha haaa haaaaaaa!

Nice try, I'm not going for it.

You are way too transparent. There is a war out there and we dont need to fight amongst ourselves...

Any ways, McCain is finished. All the best to him.

Cheers

[Faultline USA]

No matter how they try to spin it left or right, McCain was done in by his pro amnesty stance on immigration. He abandoned his conservative base and so we have abandoned him!

[Thomas Hamilton]

I have respect for John McCain and his service to this country. I'm sure none of us can imagine the anguish he went through at the hands of the North Vietnamese...

BUT

He is not the man for the job of president of the US. Frankly I wonder at times if the North Vietnamese knocked a screw loose from his head judging by his erratic political behavior.

I could take McCain were it not for his stand on the immigration issue.

I find it amusing that the MSM over and over again attribute his decline to the Iraq war and seldom mention immigration.

Anyway, it looks like he's on the way out and I'm glad. Right now my money is on Fred.

[Jack]

The more I hear about Johnny Mack the less I like.

[TexasFred]

So long Johnny, glad we didn't have to know ya!!

[Blandly Urbane]

Was that "bumstuck" or dumbstruck? Sorry, I had to, well no, it appears that Allen had to.

McCain's campaign is just falling apart picking up speed like Clark Griswold on a well oiled saucer.

He was on his way down and now this. It almost seems like his campaign has been set up...too weird

[Stormwarning]

So here's the key question. Is "what's good for the goose, also good for the gander?"

If that's the case, then Senator Vitter's involvement with the DC Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, should be equally damning for Rudy...I still maintain that Rudy is a very poor choice of character in the people he hires.

[incognito]

I read about this but missed the McCain aspect.

There's a reason all these things are happening to him, but it still saddens me when something like this happens, because it just gives the other side more fodder. Sigh.

[Freedom Now]

I like McCain because he works on both sides of the floor. While Leftists hate him for being supportive of our troops in Iraq... Rightwingers hate him for his stance on immigration and what they believe is his advocacy of lenient treatment for illegal combatants.

However, I have to be realistic because he is having much too difficult of a time due to the fact that he is getting slammed by both sides. If he can pull it off I will support him, but I don’t think he has a chance.

These days only a magician can retain a centralist platform.

[Panhandle Poet]

You don't suppose that's why McCain hired him in the first place....surely not...