Almost half of uninsured in America are illegal aliens - UPDATED II

Poverty is down and median income is up, according to just released census figures 2006, Current Population Survey. (pdf) Reporting: Molly Henneberg, Fox News Channel.

2006: number of uninsured in America 47 million people, or 15.8% of the population.

2005: number of uninsured in America 44.8 million people, or 15.3% of the population.

Joseph Antos, American Enterprise Institute, looks inside the numbers, because they are very misleading.

uninsured who are NOT U.S. CITIZENS IS 45% of the 47 million.

Broken down by age, 18 - 24 years old - 29.3% of the 47 million.

25 - 35 years old - 26.9% of the 47 million.

Broken down by salary, $75,000 or more per year - 8.5% of the 47 million.

Did you get that? Almost half of the uninsured in America are not U.S. citizens. Think what a financial break to our hospitals and doctors it would be, if the illegals were not here. Just a thought.

Also if you do the math 45% (illegal aliens) of 47 million is over 20 million illegal aliens inside the United States. Fact. (See updates below)

Also see:
Attempted Kidnapping of a 5-Year-Old Texas Girl, Common Sense America

Edwards poverty plague examined, The Uncooperative Blogger

Immigration Raid on Cincinnati nets 200 illegal aliens, The Virtuous Republic

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email stiknstein-at-gmail-dot-com and let us know at what level you would like to participate.

UPDATE i: OK folks, reader Kenny has rightfully questioned whether Mr. Joseph Antos said "45 % of the 47 million were illegal immigrants" OR whether Mro Antos said " 45% of the 47 million were immigrants". I have deleted the video of the show, so I can go back and watch it again. I have contacted Fox for a transcript and I have also contacted Molley Henneberg and Mr. Antos for clarification.

If I have mislead readers, there will be a retraction posted here. We are all human and we can all make mistakes. Here at Right Truth I try very hard to keep everything accurate. But I will be the first to issue a retraction if I make a mistake. Stay tuned. -- END UPATE I

UPDATE II: I just received the following clarification from Mr. Antos office.

Mr. Antos would like to clarify his remarks. What he actually said was that 45% of the 47 million uninsured are non-citizens; and that it is unclear how many of those are illegal immigrants.

Either I misunderstood the comment and graphic on Fox, or the graphic was incorrect. On Fox the 'unclear as to how many of those are illegal immigrants' was NOT made. Either way, I apologize for the error in reporting. Here at Right Truth I always try to keep everything completely accurate, and when I'm wrong I report that too. Ouch, that hurt. (Hey, there's a first time for everything, heh.)

Comments

[Machiavelligz]

great catch.

Want to cut health care costs, guard the border. Want to cut health care costs, send the illegals back home.

And to the argument that they can't be sent home...the border works both ways.

[Debbie]

Machiavelligz: Thanks. I was amazed at those figures.

[Angel]

and who do you think foots their bills...we do Deb!...grrrr!

[Trinity]

The dirty little secret revealed. Bravo Debbie. We, the hard working American taxpayer, getting stiffed with illegal health care. I fear it will only get worse.
However, the dinosaur media can not hide the facts anylonger, the new media is here and will not allow it. Great job.

[ortho]

Did you catch the New Yorker cartoon, "Jimmy and Jane play doctor"?

Jimmy says, "What sort of insurance do you have?" Jane replies, "Actually, I don't have any." Jimmy pithily finishes the conversation, "Goodbye, then."

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/issuecartoons/2007/08/20/cartoons_20070813?slide=16#showHeader

[Roger W, Gardner]

Thanks for that important post, Deb. Those numbers are devastating. And the conclusions are unshakable.

Where's Geraldo when you need him? How in the hell is he going to spin THOSE figures? I don't know how it would even be possible -- but I'm sure he'll figure out a way to do it.

I'm going to write those numbers on the back of my hand in indelible ink.

Great work, Deb.

[Debbie]

Ortho: Great cartoon, thanks for sharing. It doesn't work that way in real life. Physicians and hospitals MUST treat people, no matter what. Of course there is no question when it's a TRUE emergency. But with lawsuits so rampant these days, they have to cover their butts.

Angel, Trinity, Roger: Thanks. Spread the word, people need to know.

[gregdn]

Did I miss something? You say '45% of the 47 million uninsured are illegals'.

The highest estimate of illegals in this country I've heard is 12 million. Your figure comes out to be 21 million illegals.

[Rockyspoon]

Here's a revolutionary, almost dissident idea: Health insurance doesn't make you healthy. No, it simply greases the skids so you go to the doctor regularly. Doctors are trained in two things: Pharmacology and Critical Care. So if you're deathly ill from the cumulative effects of an abusive lifestyle, they can keep you from dying (the Critical Care part). Or if you've got health problems they give you drugs that will handle the symptoms, but in almost all cases not eliminate the cause (the Pharmacology aspect). Besides, doctors have a vested interest in your being sick--with most drugs you need another visit to the doctor (and $90) to determine how toxic the drugs you're taking have become to your body (since all drugs, BY DEFINITION, are low level toxins which the body has difficulty tolerating since they're synthetic chemical substances that only mimic natural substances which are beneficial). Keeping you coming back is how doctors maintain their 6-figure income. So do us all a favor and help roll back the incestuous relationship between doctors, the pharmaceutical industry, and insurance companies. As an individual, take responsibility for your own health, which you won't improve by going to your doctor. Forcing everybody to have health insurance, which essentially forces everybody to be more drug dependent, isn't going to help you get healthy. Wake up and realize what's happening. It will help you have a healthier, longer life.

[Thomas Hamilton]

"Keeping you coming back is how doctors maintain their 6-figure income"

I studied a long time to become an MD, so I don't have any problem enjoying my 6 figure income, not that what I make or don't make is Rockyspoon's or anyone else's business. I'm thinking that Rockyspoon is probably a not so well to do Democrat a little envious of someone making more money than he. He probably wants me to pay more income tax too.

Having said that, I agree with him that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN HEALTH. Another thing: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR YOUR OWN HEALTHCARE. Whether by paying for a high priced insurance policy or by the sweat of your brow, it is YOUR responsibility, not your neighbor's responsibility, not the taxpayer's responsibility.

By the way, next time you have a heart attack or are bleeding out the wazoo, instead of going to your doctor or rushing to the ER, go see your favorite politician.

[Todd Anthony]

Did Greg just state that only 12 million illegal aliens live here? He wasn't serious, was he? Did he say 12 million because the NYT, MSNBC, and LA Times told him to say that? Because it would appear to me that the Left will swallow anything the MSM shoves down their throats.

[Kenny]

Your stats are incorrect and I got nailed because of them. Did you do any research on this or just make it up? The correct quote (notice IMMIGRANTS vs Illegal Immigrants) there is a difference.

”Non-citizen immigrants were much more likely to be uninsured (45 percent uninsured) than native-born citizens (13 percent). The percentage of both native-born citizens and non-citizen immigrants who are uninsured increased in 2006.”

http://www.cbpp.org/8-28-07health.htm

I thought you gave us a smoking gun. . .you gave us a toy gun.

[Debbie]

I was hoping someone would pick up on that. Those are 20 plus million illegals that ADMITTED to being illegal on the census survey. I wonder how many lied???

[Debbie]

Kenny, I took this from Mr. Joseph Antos, American Enterprise Institute, who was a guest on Fox News.

[Kenny]

I'm smiling right now. . .can you back it up? WHERE is that source or fact? Simply saying it was on Fox (wish I had seen it) means you could have heard it wrong. Do you have anything? I looked a long time for his quote. . .couldn't find it.

[Kenny]

I apologize for a second. I just found the survey (via your site duh) and I am looking at a lot of numbers. I need to see if they are in thousands or millions?

I will get back with what i find and what page they are on. I am on a mission if you are right. :)

[Debbie]

Kenny, I've got an email in to Mr. Joseph Antos, American Enterprise Institute, and trying to get info from Fox. I can't find a transcript yet.

If he simply said "immigrants" and not illegal immigrants I've made a big mistake. But I don't think so. I wish I still had that recorded, but I dumped it.

[Kenny]

Okay upon further review I think you are wrong. I'm not happy about it because living in Arizona. . .I know there are more than 12 million in this country.

Here is why you may be wrong. . .it lists 12.6 million foreign people in poverty. Of that 12 million 10 million are "NOT A CITIZEN". Now does that mean illegal? Or does that mean they have visa's and just haven't been naturalized yet? I suspect the latter.

What we need is a total of Foreign born nationals who are holding visa's. BTW. . .unless I read it wrong, I think there are 39 million (not citizens) who answered the census. Just doesn't mean they are illegal.

[Nino]

Who gave the OK for an illegal alien to get anything free?
I don't care about why anyone thinks its right,,,,, its wrong. It’s stealing and it is now being made right.
Health care has become a fraud. The insurance companies hire doctors to disapprove claims and the doctors keep on issuing orders to keep off the greedy lawyers for what after the fact they should have done or knew. Do you think these doctors are God? The people are made to believe that science can do everything and anything that man misuses or contracts.
The drug manufacturers are in the pockets of the doctors and the lawyers to sell there goods to anyone for any reason at any time and any place.
The system is corrupt and the federal government is now got there greedy power seeking fingers into it catering to the very source of the problem that they started by allowing the illegal’s in.
Get rid of the politicians first, then the lawyers and the greedy in all of the medical profession and you will have resolved the problem.
There is no accountability but there is reason. Greed and power.

The government wants the people who are not on there programs of government entitlements on to gain their vote. The have no care for what it cost or who is to pay for it, it just keeps them in power. When the objective is self elevation and power that person or persons will stop at nothing. Look at the news tonight and it will be in your face.
Medicare and Medicaid do work. Get rid of the corruption.
It lies first in lobbyists in Washington and the politicians who seek life long jobs in government of wealth power and status. They do not have the well being of the people at hand but their own agenda. Look a William Jefferson and his entire family now on trial.

Lawsuits for any and everything is the cause for these problems plus the public being told that man can solve every problem they make up for themselves.
That is the way the ignorant and lazy believe. Anything for nothing, who you know and not what you know is their philosophy. Lawyers love that. A famous quote from attorney Morris Bart’s commercial "have a wreck get a check". What does that imply?
Look up what the Peter principal is and you will see the federal government methods of selection of appointments.
This applies to liberals, democrats and republicans alike. One in the same who truly looks after number one and throws a crumb to its follower in the name of "you deserve better" and we will give it to you out of the pockets of the people who make the country work.

When the corrupt and the stupid are in leadership you should not expect any less from them. If the public continues to vote in corruption, stupidity, deceit, fraud and mouth pieces rather than the historical achievements of candidates for public office they will continue to sink into the depths of depravation poverty and socialism and eventually collapse. It is not what a person says that defines who he is but what actions he has taken!

[TANSTAAFL]

Illegal immigrants aren't here because some liberal leaning person wants them here. They are here because the business community loves to use them for labor.

If you don't want illegal immigrants in the country, start confronting the companies using them. Of course, be aware that any economic impact in those industries will probably be passed on to you. Just saying....