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December 12, 2007

The Pope vs the Church of Global Warming

Pope Benedict XVI stands up against the global warming "prophets of doom", a/k/a Al Gore and his church of eternal carbon credits. BWHAHAHAHAHAH! What a beautiful thing to hear. We have the Pope vs Al Gore et al; AND the Pope vs the United Nations. You've got to love this man whether you are Catholic or not.

Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.

The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.

His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks. (Daily Mail)

From Blue Crab Boulevard:

The Pope's entire message can be read on the Vatican website. The relevant portion is entitled The family, the human community and the environment.

This is about the human race and the Pope believes humans are more important that anything else, more important than any of God's creation. I've said this before.

From Fausta's Blog:

No wonder Skeptical Scientists Urge World To Have the Courage to Do Nothing At UN
"Climate change is a non problem. The right answer to a non problem is to have the courage to do nothing," Monckton told participants.

"The UN conference is a complete waste of our time and your money and we should no longer pay the slightest attention to the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,)" Monckton added.

From To The Right of Wrong an alert:

See now what I mean by the Global Warming Hoax being used to push a Communist agenda. Well today they finally just came right out and said it: We are going to take from the "rich" according to their means and give to the "poor" according to their need. That's communism plain and simple. Hell, they even put a price tag on it for us "rich" Americans, we should all be ponying up:

Not everything in the Pope's statements was about global warming:

The truth is that while global warming was a major subject of the speech, the press seems to have missed that it was couched in a bigger message of Peace and the Human Family. (more)

From Hot Air:

Pretty basic, actually, but let’s not kill a sweet narrative — especially one that sees fit to snicker, “senior cardinals close to the Vatican have since expressed doubts about a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion.” Your exit question: What’s motivating this? Is the Pope really a righteous skeptic? Or, per what the Mail has to say about his warning not to privilege the lives of animals over humans, is he trying to head off the green fundies at the pass?

Others: Political Vindication

While we're on churches and religion, don't be caught up in the Church of Oprah and Obama. I think Oprah has been preaching the virtues of Barack Obama from her new pulpit, but I'm wondering what she will do when he falls from his pedestal? The wrath of Ophra will be a sight to behold. R.J.Godlewski says:

For those of us who actually have lives to lead, Oprah Winfrey is nothing more than an aging New Ager. She wants to take the best of whatever she can find and fabricate it into a new religion where she’s the priestess, the confidant, and the chairman of the board. Myself, I prefer tried and true Christianity. All of this leads me to consider why she’s now full tilt in Barack Obama’s campaign and why her southern appearances seem to have everything in common with a good old-fashioned Bible Belt revival. Has she given up on her New Age beliefs in exchange for orthodox Christianity? Not by a long shot! Otherwise she wouldn’t be endorsing someone who doesn’t believe in orthodox Christianity himself. Oprah Winfrey has simply reached a barrier in her career. She’s the richest, most influential woman in American and what Oprah wants Oprah gets. This is how Texas cattle ranchers lost big money when Queen Oprah boasted that eating meat was not healthy. She survived the subsequent lawsuits, but I wonder how many ranchers survived after their livelihood tanked because Oprah decided that she knew better than we did (Note to all of my rancher fans: I just love a big, thick, juicy steak). So Oprah’s endorsement of Barack Obama has very little to do with the future of this nation and everything to do with the future of Oprah. She’s run against a wall. She has her production company, her book club, her magazine, her student-abusing school in Africa (that denies education to whites). What’s next? Corralling politics. (more)

Other reading:
Complaint filed over soccer jersey 'offensive to Islam', Rantburg
How the Doctored NIE Works for the US, at Freethinking Americans
Aussie mum, convert to Islam, misunderstands her new religion, calls her family "soldiers of Osama bin Laden", Jihad Watch

WHO Sux Big For Hamastan
at Winds of Jihad

Larry O’Donnell admits he’s afraid to criticize Islam
, Hot Air
Dutch lawmaker plans film criticizing Islam, Infidels Are Cool
Religion of “____” Killing Christians..Oh Well., Woman Honor Thyself
Go see the Nanny Awards

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If I seem overly passionate, maybe I am. I'm just sick of watching our government accomplish absolutely nothing about anything because they spend all their time squabbling over blame and fault and details and reports.

Then I see bloggers doing the same thing instead of calling for action. What are we here for if we can't break out of that mold?

Rasta

Debbie, you're still arguing the CAUSE. The cause of global warming is a NON-ISSUE. And as far as how fast it's happening, the evidence is irrefutable that it's speeding up. No one argues that or that global warming is actual, anymore.

Let's get off CAUSE, okay? And start talking about DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. If there's any chance that our massive carbon dioxide emissions are increasing the greenhouse effect, which is in fact caused by increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide, do you deny that we should make an effort to cut way back on these emissions? Maybe just to see if it matters, if nothing else? Maybe just to try to do less damage to our planet, just in case we are? Huh? What do you think? Huh?

Is that such a difficult concept?

When a forest is on fire, should we do a study to see what dies in it, or should we maybe try to put the damned fire out?

Honestly...

Rastaman, I never said I didn’t believe the earth was warming. The question is how much, how fast, how urgent? Also what is causing it? Is it really MAN causing it? If not, and if it is a natural warming trend like has happened many times in the past, can or should anything be done to try and stop it? If it’s a natural change in the earth, mankind can’t change that. And it the rate of warming is only one degree over many years, it would be generations and generations before any damage would be done. Those are a lot of IF’S. The Pope is simply saying let’s get HARD, scientific facts. There are many scientists who do not believe the climate change we are experiencing is the threat that the Al Gore crowd who cry “the sky is falling” believe.

Yeah? Then disagree with this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/13/tech/main3613698.shtml

The Arctic sea ice that was predicted only last year to be gone by 2040 is now expected to be gone by 2012, just 5 more years. Estimates were revised because of massive melting this year. It looks like warming has entered a new, faster phase.

This is like talking to rocks. No point in it. When your supply of fuel, food and water starts getting scarcer, as it will before much longer, maybe then you'll wake up.

I've no clue why the Pope stuck his face into this with "global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology." when he's the worlds greatest advocate of dubios ideology.

Regardless of the cause, Earth is warming. Like it or not, and I know you don't.

Rasta

Michael: That's funny, thanks for sharing.

Paladin: Good for Michael Savage. He is one strong guy, especially against Islam.

Rastaman: You and I will have to disagree on this one my friend.

I received some comments from readers via email. Here they are:

Comment 1: "Don't underestimate the Pope. Pope Benedict hasn't been around long enough yet to gain the reputation of Pope John Paul II, but his pre-Pope reputation is widely known; he's the one that worked hand in hand with John Paul II to craft his policies (and some say was hand-picked by the late Pontiff). In the Christian world, there's only two nations that are overwhelmingly Protestant -- The United States and Australia. Everyone else is at least a 50/50 split. Even Castro and his Soviet cronies couldn't stop a Pope, and Khrushchev told John 23 that they'd destroy the Catholic Church to which the reply was, I believe, "If we haven't destroyed the Church, no one else will be able to!" More people look to the Vatican for guidance than you know and because the Vatican is well-versed in science (e.g., the Vatican Observatory in Arizona), it won't be manipulated by pseudo-science."

Comment 2: "You might want to inform the 'All-Wise Rastaman' that besides having a Doctorate and authority over countless educational and scientific organizations, His Holiness is also a head of state -- no different than President Bush or any other national leader -- and therefore has as much concern over the environment as anybody else. In this regard, he has more 'authority' than Al Gore -- the Pontiff won his election. ;o)

Besides, the Pope isn't denying global warming -- just like the late Pope John Paul II didn't deny evolution -- just that humans -- of which the Pope is the leader of 1.3 billion directly -- shouldn't manipulate the facts for personal, political, or economic benefit. "

Would someone please tell me who the F made the Pope an authority on anything except robe-wearing? He doesn't know crap about science.

Global warming is a fact. How many times you gotta hear it? It's a fact. The Earth is warming up and the Earth doesn't give a tinkers turd about politics. Why it's been politicized is only known to people who have profit margins to reach.

Gore may be right, he may be wrong. Does it matter? I don't really give a damn, do you? Can you stop the Earth from warming up? Do you really think anyone can? Think again.

This is a natural cycle and not the first time. If humans are contributing to it, oh well. Why do Republicans insist on freaking out with manic glee every time someone says the Earth is not warming? It is, hello, raise your head and look around.

The point is not to try reversing it, it's to make long-range plans to deal with it as it happens instead of stupidly bickering over whether it's a natural or artificial or both phenomenon.

The POPE! My dying ass.

Japanese saying: "Fix the PROBLEM, not the blame."

Rasta

I HAD A GOOD LAUGH TODAY WHEN MICHAEL SAVAGE CALLED GORE, GORELEONI IN REFERENCE TO HIM LEADING A SCAM THAT IS REALLY A MONEY GRAB FOR THE TURD WORLD. HE CALLED HIM THE CAPPO DI TUTI OR BOSS OF ALL BOSSES OF THE GLOBAL WARMING MAFIA. MAN THAT GUY HAS A WAY WITH WORDS.

I'm not sure that someone with Oprah's history of eating/weight issues should have ever, er, weighed in on what's healthy food.

That would be a presidential candidate I could vote for.

This is juicy indeed but I wish someone with more political clout that the pope would stand up and tell the truth.

Wouldn't it be great if the next US president would stand up with the following:

"My fellow Americans. I am here to tell you that the notion of man made global warming and a planet in crisis is a hoax and one of the greatest scams perpetrated on mankind. Implementing these nonsensical ideas suggested by the environmental whackos would cost thousands of American jobs and enslave us further to foreign sources of energy. My fellow Americans, it's time to drill the hell out of ANWR and the enormous oil reserves off our coasts while at the same time telling our "friends" in the middle east to go to hell! My friends, carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant. It is a simple byproduct of breathing."

Wouldn't it be just grand? I give it about as much chance as the Fair Tax.

Pope 1...RevAlGore 0

hiya Deb..well this is good news now isnt it!:)

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