Talk show host gets child rape wrong

Thursday, April 17, 2008, hearings begin in the largest child-welfare case in U.S. history -- referred to as the "West Texas polygamist colony." What's at issue here are the children who are being sexually abused (raped) by older men. While driving today I was listening to Jackson Tennessee Talk Radio (101.5), hosted by GeorgeB.

It seems that GeorgeB thinks the 416 children should have been LEFT IN THE COMPOUND and allowed to be raped and abused. He feels that the government sticks it's nose into too many of our lives and in this case overstepped. I am a firm believer that government has way too much control over Americans, but this is different. This so-called religious group was nothing more than a breeding ground for pedophiles.

The females were raped as early as 10 (possibly earlier). According to one report on Fox News, they were encouraged to have one baby per year. If reports of a 16 year old with 4 children are correct, that backs up Fox.

Hey GeorgeB: This is a 10,000-member sect. Want to guess how many young girls have been raped by these men??? Women and girls who have escaped from this cult say, "God bless Texas".

GeorgeB said that the Children's Services had no proof that child abuse was occurring, and went in anyway.
He says they went in and removed all these children and mothers on an anonymous tip, and he believed that Children's Services MADE THE TIP phone call themselves, in order to have an excuse to enter the compound.

If I were to pick up the phone and call in a tip about a neighbor I thought was abusing their child, I would EXPECT authorities to GO CHECK IT OUT. That is exactly what authorities did in Texas and "court papers released last Friday showed that state investigators hauled off a cache of evidence from the polygamist compound that included marriage and birth records and what was cryptically described as a "cyanide poisoning document."

I'm wondering what GeorgeB has been smoking. He also said that these are NOT polygamists because they were not legally married by the State. I have to agree with him on that one. This is a case of child rape -- pure and simple. The 'church' is trying to hide behind 'marriage and family', but there is nothing legal about this situation. Young girls were "spiritually married" -- a process that has no legal binding -- to middle-aged males.

The facts are:

'Boys as Young as 13 Are Expelled from Group & Left to Fend for Themselves'

Texas Department of Public Safety investigator Leslie Brooks said he has found a document indicating marriages between one man and more than 20 wives who resided at a west Texas polygamist compound.

Investigators said they have even discovered a bed inside its temple building that was reserved for men to have sex for the first time with their underage "wives" after they were united "spiritually."

Three of the women were on television, interviewed by Meredith Viera and they looked like zombies, mind-numbed robots, brainwashed, repeating what they had been indoctrinated to say. New Dawn Nashville said, "They look horrible... Inbred...." That's because THEY ARE INBRED.

IS IT A CHURCH, OR A CULT:

“It’s nothing more than a cult,” said Benjamin Bistline, who spent years as a devoted FLDS member in Short Creek, Ariz. “A cult is controlled by one person. What he says goes or you get booted.”

But neither the FLDS nor the YFZ Ranch — scene of suspected child sexual and physical abuse — has filed for status as a nonprofit organization with the IRS, an IRS spokesman said.

The YFZ Ranch’s property tax tab adds up to $1 million from 2004 when the sect first began paying property taxes through 2007, according to the Schleicher County Appraisal District.

The tax bill raises the question of how the compound is being funded. So far, answers are scant.

ONE WAY THEY ARE FUNDED IS: Texas polygamist cult GOT DEFENSE CONTRACTS

American taxpayers have unwittingly helped finance a polygamist sect that is now the focus of a massive child abuse investigation in West Texas, with a business tied to the group receiving a nearly $1 million loan from the federal government and $1.2 million in military contracts.

The ability of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, to operate and grow is largely dependent on huge contributions from its members and revenue from the businesses they control, according to a former accountant for the church, and government officials in Utah and Arizona, where the sect is primarily based.

One of those businesses, NewEra Manufacturing in Las Vegas, has been awarded more than $1.2 million in federal government contracts, with most of the money coming in recent years from the Defense Department for wheel and brake components for military aircraft. [McClatchy]

UPDATE:

At issue is whether the 416 children in state custody will go to foster homes and group homes, live with relatives or be returned to their parents at the “Yearning For Zion Ranch” in Eldorado, run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Aside from the sheer number of potential victims involved, the case is made even cloudier by the need for hundreds of attorneys and child advocates, special circumstances involving minor mothers and religious customs, and a legal and logistical quagmire that lawyers fear this courthouse in the sparsely populated Tom Green County won’t be able to handle.

“We don’t know what to expect,” said John Kennedy, an attorney with Legal Aid of Northwest Texas whose firm is representing about 80 mothers. “Our biggest struggle with a case of this size and this magnitude is that the rights of each individual are protected.” (Dallas News)

For the children’s sake, authorities can’t afford for this case to fall apart because of any legal mistakes. (MORE) The legal situation will be mind-boggling, the number of attorneys, the time, the number of physicians, counselors, etc. Texas must get this right.

It's such a pretty place, GeorgeB, I know you don't think anything wrong could happen here and that Children's Services are the big bad wolf here -- but you are sadly mistaken. Unknown numbers of female children, their future, their safety, is what is at stake here. I would rather err on the side of caution, than allow one child to be sexually abused.

__________________________________________________________________________
Sharing the article and Trackposted to The Virtuous Republic, Rosemary's Thoughts, Allie is Wired, Nuke Gingrich, Adam's Blog, The World According to Carl, Shadowscope, Celebrity Smack, The Pink Flamingo, Cao's Blog, Dumb Ox Daily News, , Right Voices, The Yankee Sailor, and Chuck's Place, thanks to Linkfest Haven Deluxe.

Comments

[Debbie]

Bernie: Great point, we hear all the time about Islam's abuse of children and women. I think the Left uses the separation of church and state when it suits them.

Stormwarning: I heard that about Waco also, pure rubbish.

[bernie]

If Hitler had formed a church of Latter Day Jew Killers, would that have excused his actions? When will we realize in this country that separation of church and state only applies to the government not supporting any religion, it does not mean the government must tolerate all absurd religious practices.

I don't care if it's a cult or a religion, if you practice child abuse, wife abuse, pedophilia, etc, the government has the right not only to interfere, but to prevent. And I am speaking here about Islam.

[Stormwarning]

Listen, there are fools around the Internet today claiming that this whole thing in El Dorado with the polygamists is a parallel to the Waco/Koresh stuff. Such "horse pucks" ("meadow muffins").

[Debbie]

I'm surprised at Mike Gallagher, would not have expected that from him.

The children must be removed from their mothers so they will talk freely to the Children's Services investigators. Any who have not been molested may be returned to mothers, ONLY if the mothers refuse to return to that horrid situation

[Karen]

Debbie, I heard the same on Mike Gallagher's radio show yesterday morning. He was all jacked up about the children being separated from their mothers and removed to temporary care so they can be interviewed. He compared it to the atmosphere in Nazi Germany.

[Skunkfeathers]

Perhaps GeorgeB is torqued because he didn't get to partake at the compound before it was justly shut down.

[Aurora]

What a festering sore that has been on America's butt for the last how many decades? I've been inside a polygamist town in the States and there is some serious interbreeding and all kinds of stuff going on there. The feds tried to clamp down on it back in the 50s apparently but they ended up with dozens of women and children on welfare once the men were taken to jail so they decided to turn a blind eye. It's time this was cleaned up. I just hope it's not going to be another thing blamed on mainstream Christianity.

[Stormwarning]

At once, this is a complicated and simple situation. Complicated largely because some people will argue religious freedom while clearly, religion or not, 50 yr. old men having sex with early teen girls is downright illegal and offensive.

As for talk radio hosts, I've got one here who about a year ago questioned whether "Cindy Sheehan expected that she'd become Speaker of the House by defeating Nancy Pelosi" (with the talk show host clearly believing that by defeating Pelosi that the Speaker's position came with it), and then recently rejected the true answer to the question of all of the airline groundings because it didn't link with his ignorant view of the situation. Other than a few talk show hosts with either National shows or shows in major markets, they aren't worth the time to listen to because they're talking from ignorance.

[Grouch at Right Truth]

I don't listen to George B. but it sounds like he's probably a strict libertarian. This is the type of thing you'll run into occasionally with these folks. I am libertarian about most things with some exceptions, particularly abortion, and the way I see it, the libertarian point of view fails to acknowledge the rights of the unborn.

In a like manner, I don't cut pedophiles any slack.

So I guess right leaning, pro life libertarian best describes the Grouch.