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thirtycal

Bingo, RJ. I searched the web using Google to try to find if anyone else noticed that the the choice of an FN57 is basically too odd to be anything other than proof of premeditation.

I heard a rediculous proposal today on AM talk radio. The liberal host suggested that Hasan was in fact attempting to commit "suicide by cop" (where the shooter fires at police officers in order to be killed by return fire). This is a rediculous proposal give the fact that the shooter chose a firearm that is specifically designed to defeat body armor. If the intent of Hasan was to "draw fire" in order to commit suicide, why the heck would he choose a weapon with the potential to kill even those wearing body armor? Well the obvious explanation for Hasan's weapon choice is that he intended to kill as many people as he could. Drawing fire was not his primary motive - killing as many people as possible was his primary motive. That's why he chose the only handgun in the world that fires a bullet specifically designed to defeat body armor, and has the highest standard magazine capacity of any handgun currently available (20 rnds).
It's very clear; if you want the most killing power in a handgun, there is no better choice on the planet than an FN5.7... And Hasan knew that. Why else would he buy such an odd firearm which is both so costly to purchase as well as so costly to shoot. It's a crazy choice for someone who just wants to buy a defensive firearm for personal protection.

R.J. Godlewski

Debbie,

FN produces armor-piercing rounds which are "sold only to law enforcement and military agencies" but that's if you want to penetrate vehicles or equipment. Personal body armor rarely stops anything above a .45 and high-speed rounds such as the 5.7mm translate more into a rifle round than anything.

On a separate matter...

That Hasan was frequenting strip clubs leaves me thinking about all those other Islamic terrorists who got lap dances. Could it be that they were trying to psych themselves up for the "77 virgins" that await them? Perhaps our intel people need to start visiting the strip clubs outside of Dearborn? ;o)

Debbie

RJ: I stand corrected. Someone told me it was only sold to the military. Thanks for that.

Hasan has both of this fatigue pants cargo pockets FULL of magazines. Word is that he fired over 100 shots, but had enough ammo to keep firing for a looooooooong time.

R.J. Godlewski

Debbie,

5.7x 28mm ammo can be ordered online (UPS delivered) from Cabela's for $119.99 (250 rounds), $219.99 (500 rounds), or $409.99 (1,000 rounds) and they throw in free dry boxes (a $14.99 value!).

Ammunition supply was the least of Hasan's difficulties.

R.J.

Debbie

RJ: I reported on the type of gun and ammo previously, but you make an excellent point. Also the ammo is not sold to just anybody. When, where, and how he bought the gun and ammo will be very interesting.

And your point that this was planned way ahead of time is accurate.

R.J. Godlewski

Debbie,

What I have to say is all based upon speculation and incomplete information, mind you, but here's a little bit more troubling information.

Hasan allegedly used as one of his firearms of choice a FN Herstal Five-seveN USG firing 5.7x28mm rounds. For convenience, I will divert to the experts over at Gun Blast if your readers want some more tech data: http://www.gunblast.com/FN-FiveseveN.htm

Anyway, the 5.7mm is basically one step above a .22 magnum and designed for trajectory speed than anything. It has an effective range of 200m which is astounding for a pistol. It's been called a "cop killer" (odd because I always thought that it was people who killed others) because it can penetrate most military and police body armor (as would most any other cartridge not fired by a pistol).

FN, unlike most manufacturers, ships their guns with three magazines instead of two (I have to special order mags for my Taurus), so in the case of the Five-seveN, a shooter can have 60 rounds available immediately. Also, this unique FN pistol, being of such a relatively small caliber, is appreciated by those who cannot handle very much recoil -- light frame women, elderly people with arthritis, etc. This low recoil also permits a shooter to remain on target for subsequent follou-up shots.

Now, my point is, this is not a firearm that many people know about. I doubt there are many gun enthusiasts who are aware of its peculiarities. Not to mention it costs over $1,000 on "sale".

Therefore, this does not strike me as the weapon of choice for someone who simply "lost it". Hasan obviously did his homework and this beckons to be called a "pre-meditated" crime in my book.

R.J.

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