Against popular opinion.
Is the Boehner legislation the best legislation possible? Of course not! You don't get your heart's desire when you control only one house of Congress and face a presidential veto.
The most basic fact of life is that we can make our choices only among the alternatives actually available. It is not idealism to ignore the limits of one's power. Nor is it selling out one's principles to recognize those limits at a given time and place, and get the best deal possible under those conditions.
That still leaves the option of working toward getting a better deal later, when the odds are more in your favor. [snip]
There are a lot of things to weigh against each other, not only as regards the economy, but also what the consequences to this nation would be to have Barack Obama get re-elected and go further down the dangerous path he has put us on, at home and abroad. Is it worth that risk to make a futile symbolic vote in Congress?
One of the good things about the Tea Party movement is that it resisted the temptation to actually form a third political party, which has been an exercise in futility, time and time again, under the American electoral system.
But, if the Tea Party movement within the Republican Party becomes just a rule-or-ruin minority, then they might just as well have formed a separate third party and gone on to oblivion.
Writers can advocate things that have no chance at the moment, for their very writing about those things persuasively can make them possible at some future date. But to adopt the same approach as an elected member of Congress risks losing both the present and the future. -- Thomas Sowell
Another:
I believe that Boehner and proponents of his plan are acting honorably. Tons of conservatives I respect support the plan, including Paul Ryan and Allen West.
If a bill is passed, let's pray that we conservatives will wake up the very next day and start hammering away at the overarching debt crisis and do a better job of taking our case to the people. We are not one another's enemies. -- David Limbaugh
I personally do not know what the answer is to the impasse. I know what I would
like the Republicans to do, but that doesn't seem possible today. We're threatened with 'if you don't vote for Boehner's bill (with Harry Reid's changes) you will be responsible for Barack Hussein Obama's re-election in 2012'.
I feel for the TEA party politicians in Washington. They want to do the right thing, stand firm for those who elected them. They are dealing with clowns and ancient relics, career politicians who play the game and play it well. I don't know what the answer is, but if the Boehner plan is the best we can get, we're in a pretty sad state of affairs.
What we've seen is a well intentioned but grandly mishandled affair by House Leader John Boehner and certain strains of the conservative press.
The true compromise is obvious: you want to spend here, you will have to cut your spending there. As for taxes, we all welcome tax reform where indeed, if revenues can be increased by trading loopholes for reduced rates, then by all means. That will take time and let’s do it after this debt ceiling problem is resolved. This simple answer was rarely voiced by conservatives. [snip]
There is still time. Boehner, who is well intentioned and strong, along with the House Republicans should create turmoil for days. Some should be out screaming to go back to Cut Cap and Balance while they work behind the scenes on a revision to Cut, Cap and Balance that is somewhat more digestible to the Democrats in addressing the immediate 40% cuts more prudently. But carry out the drama until the 2nd and then vote on it, send it over to Reid, and send Obama an early Happy Birthday wish.
Otherwise, by creating the fundamental expectation that this was to be a genuine good faith “coming together” of parties, Obama and Reid have assured that at the last minute it will be Reid who sends something back to Boehner and he will have little room to do anything but accept with minor tweaks and lose the one day game. -- Bill Siegel
No! What the Republicans need to do is go back to Cut, Cap, and Balance or even back further to Paul Ryan's budget, and tell the Senate "here it is, here is our bill, pass it and sign it or you suffer the consequences".
That's my two cents.
Updates and what others think:
As we all sit and wait for news on the delayed vote in Washington, Michele Bachmann is sending a frenzy of fundraising emails blasting Boehner’s plan and Obama’s appetite for spending. I will not vote to raise the debt ceiling. The answer to our nation’s spending problem is not to spend more — it is [...]
Americans for Limited Government today issued a statement urging the House of Representatives to pass the "Cut, Cap, and Balance Act" again with even more cuts:
"There is no need for the House to pass anything today that the Senate simply wants to modify anyway. If the House feels it must pass something, it should just stand its ground and pass 'Cut, Cap, and Balance' again with even more cuts to 2012 than before. And urge the Senate to vote on it up or down. If Congress cannot get a balanced budget amendment now, cap spending, and make immediate cuts, we may never get our fiscal house in order.
"The bill should include a revenue prioritization when the debt ceiling is reached, instructing the Treasury to pay interest on the debt and otherwise refinance debt up to the limit. This will take default or withholding Social Security checks out of the equation, and begin an honest debate without a loaded gun in Obama's hands."
What Role Does Fear Play in Obama’s Debt Ceiling Strategy?, Ask Heritage
[snip] The Obama Administration spent all weekend trying to talk down markets, hoping to make use of any artificial drop for political purposes.
Never mind that the financial security of hundreds of millions of Americans and others would be injured in the process. The Administration needs what it has already dubbed “the Boehner drop”—named after Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner—to try to get its way in the debt ceiling negotiations. (continue reading)
$10 trillion is the amount in cuts that the rating agency Standard & Poor says is needed over time to bring the nation's finances under control.
....listening to these whiny bitches - aka federal employees - complain about how tough their lives are and how unfair the current political environment ("the return of common sense") is to them, makes me pray for an extended government shutdown, just to learn these pampered fops a lesson they so strongly deserve.
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Interesting:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f8938--dft.pdf. The suspicion is that Obama is considering a "wealth tax." On Americans at home and abroad. An American would be taxed not just on income, but on the value of his foreign assets.
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