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July 12, 2012

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Mystical Time Traveler

The first mistake she made was to marry a Muslim.

The second mistake she made was to move to a Muslim country.

The third mistake she made was to allow her ex to have the children.

R.J. Godlewski

The first mistake was in abandoning Christianity. How "anyone" could improve upon that remains a mystery to me...

Leticia

I wonder if this story is about my friend, Liz?

After watching "Not Without My Daughter" and reading the book, I had a new perspective about Islam.

Muslim women are worthless to the men and are treated as property, they are without rights or representation. They are basically tools to deal with, trade with and God have mercy on the little girls who are married off to perverted old men.

Layla

R.J., standing from the outside it is easy to say, "The first mistake was abandoning Christianity."

The whole point of this article is that that Elizabeth could not abandon Christianity and my comment is not up for arguement or contention.

Elizabeth was a young girl and immature at the time, as she readily admitts to her shortcomings.

Young people are not always "together" - most of us can look back in hindsight and find our own mistakes. So lets not point fingers and remind others of their mistakes when we all have made plenty of our own. We all fall short of the glory of God - that is the Bible, not Laylaology,R.J.,....

Elizabeth Gonzalez

Hi, Leticia, and yes, this is your old friend Liz. I miss you! Hope all is well with you.

Contact Debbie as I give her permission to share my e-mail with you.

R.J. Godlewski

Layla,

I am by no means being critical of Ms. Gonzalez per se -- and I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate her and hope for the best for her children -- my response was to MTT.

Since we're on the topic, I can only go by what I read. Ms. Gonzalez implied that she was 23 during the time that she was disgruntled with the Catholic Church. This seems odd as she would have gone through First Communion, Catechism, AND Confirmation. Somewhere along the way she either became disinterested, had poor teachers, or experienced poor examples of Catholics.

Yes, technically, she DID abandon Christianity if she tried other religions including Judasim. Young people come back to the Church all of the time -- but they cannot come "back" if they did not leave in the first place.

If she writes that she was "disgruntled" with the Church, then we have to ask "Why?" yes? Most former Catholics who meander through different Christian Churches usually have an issue with their local parish and not necessarily the Church proper.

Again, I wasn't pointing fingers...but I bet that Ms. Gonzalez can trace her problems to the time that she left the Church and the joy that she now feels in returning.

sablegsd


"By the time, I married my ex-husband I agreed to become a Muslim." Seems to me you DID become a koranimal.

Because you are just that stupid.

sablegsd

"Elizabeth was a young girl and immature at the time, as she readily admitts to her shortcomings."

Her "shortcoming" is stupidity.
At 23 I had been married for 5 years and had our 2 boys. And you could NEVER get me to denounce Jehovah and Jesus Christ for some insane,pedophiliac, misogynistic, barbaric form of totalitarian government that some like to pretend is a religion.

Always On Watch

Peter denied our Lord three times -- even though Peter had physically walked alongside our Lord for some three years and witnessed and heard so much.

Before judging another's strength in the faith, remember Peter.

R.J. Godlewski

AOW,

Peter was terrified for his life as the Jews were out to crucify anyone associated with Jesus. Ms. Gonzalez/Layla was simply a confused youth. Much like divorce, people always end up with something far worse than what they were originally running from.

PALADIN

Liz i still don't understand how you could get "involved" with a Muslime and not expect disaster, but the main thing is you got out without losing your life...be eternally thankful for that and continue to expose this evil false cult for what it is. People listen to someone who has " been There"

I once had to get a Canadian woman out of Lebanon who was married to a Muslime misogynist...hell they're all misogynists !
Anyway we went to her apartment in Beirut and sure enough she had been beaten black and blue by the pig she was married to.
We held the dirtbag at gunpoint as she gathered up her stuff and their young son.
Just before we left , she grabbed a big copper pan and proceeded to lay a beating on him like i've never saw before or since.
Being we had him flex cuffed hand and foot, we figured he deserved what he got......for a few minutes anyway.
When we left he was a wimpering little mess, and we got the woman and her son out of Lebanon the next day.

Diablo

I am from Venezuela where there's a large Lebanese community. The horror stories from Venezuelan women marrying muslim men are numerous, some of which I have a direct account. They all seem to follow the same general pattern. After the women are charmed into marriage the nightmare begins. Submission and beatings by the in-laws (& husband), constant insults and degradation and children taken away. DO NOT MARRY A MUSLIM! 'Nough said!

Always On Watch

R.J.,
Yes, Peter was indeed afraid for his life.

But you must realize that walks of faith in our Lord are different as we are all different individuals.

And, of course, Peter wasn't the only one of the 12 to flee.

Our Lord does understand our frailties.

Also remember the joy over one returning to the fold.

Christina

Okay I'm a Christian woman living in Saudi Arabia, I've been living here for over fifteen years. I don't wear a scarf and I don't get any abuse from anyone. I believe you exaggerated a few points especially since rape in Saudi Arabia is not taken lightly at all. You would not get jailed, the man who tried to rape you would get lashed and jailed as this is against Islamic law. Another thing is your ex-husband's sister does not behave like a typical Muslim woman would, or rather should. For all the fifteen years of living here I've met many Muslim woman who would visit me or I would visit them on practically a daily basis, there's no law to stop that. Another point is the hijab is not meant to cover the face and head it is just meant to cover the hair, it is basically the scarf. A niqab is what covers the face and this isn't legally obligated, at least not in any part where I've lived (Jeddah, Khobar, Dammam and Jubail) also the men that beat women with sticks don't actually have the right to do so, I was told several times by my Muslim friends that it is abuse and it is not within Islamic law. And I would just like to say that I could not continue reading your story after the ex-husband's boss approached you sexually, I just could not. I think you went through a series of unfortunate events and I really hope that you don't view Muslims in a bad way, they are not bad people as everyone believes. Thank you and God bless.

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