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Our World As We See It ..... by the Debonair Dude

I told you that they should have voted for Michael Bloomberg. The Pope of New York.

R.J. Godlewski

I think that Pope Francis will possess the likeability of John Paul II and the doctrinal brilliance of Benedict XVI. He won't be "like" his predecessors, but will be enough of them to handle the (largely secular) challenges offered by the future.

(Rhino!) CBPO Jon A Underwood, CBP, Ret.

As I understand it, if you believe in abortion, then you are not a true, practicing Roman Catholic.

If you believe in abortion as a "Choice" no matter the situation, you are really a protestant!

From what I have read about the new Pope, he seems like Pope Francis 1 is the guy the Vatican needs, but I dont think he's going to be the liberal that Socialist governments were looking for.

He seems to have compassion but he also seems to stand for the tenants of the Faith, if you are looking forward to Pope Francis 1 to allow Gay Marriage, wrong... To allow Gay adoption, wrong..., to allow Females as Priests, wrong.

Allow criminal priests to continue on without action, in public anyway, wrong...

I bet he is the type to put it out, publicly, that any representative of the Catholic Faith that condones the rape of children and the reassignment of criminal priests are wrong and will be removed from their position and turned over to the police for prosecution,

Even though I dont accept the contention that Jesus was divine, it does not mean I dont support a pious Man, such as Pope Francis 1 to be the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics...

The idea that he is going to be walking around Rome, something has to be done about that.... Security is a much needed thing in his case... The Swiss Guard will handle that I am sure....

R.J. Godlewski

@Jon,

He won't be 'walking' anywhere nowadays. :o) That said, even John Paul II used to sneak out skiing every once in a while and he was the only pope ever shot.

As for Francis I, he refused to be intimidated by the Argentine president on matters of endorsing same-sex marriage.

As for all those people -- such as Fox News' Shepherd Smith who think that the Church is archaic -- Roman Catholics believe that God Himself (through the Holy Spirit) chooses the pope and defines the doctrine.

In this regard, I am quite certain that God knows the future and therefore any prospect that the Church is "out" of touch with the times ignores the fact that "We" are living within a very infinitestimal portion of that "time". That is, the Church has been around for 2,000 years and 266 popes. Secular progressivism has only been around for, say, 100 years at best.

Guess who my money is on... :o)

R.J.

Chavah

My money is on the Catholic church and Francis I - and I'm Jewish.

I just hope he will have the cojones to punch those liberal twits where it will hurt. And he sure does need prayer and very loyal, very agressive security. Don't forget, one 20th century pope lasted only a month.

R.J. Godlewski

@Chavah,

That would be John Paul I and, yet, he was able to institute some rather remarkable Vatican changes in that month that paved the way for John Paul II's 27 year papacy.

It is not the years in the pope, but the pope in the years that matters.

Snake Hunter

There Is Reason To Believe In The Possibility Of A New Beginning For Holy Mother Church... with the selection of the first Jesuit Pope!

I wonder if his eminence is aware of the foreign infiltration of the oldest jesuit school in the U.S.,
here at Georgetown University... from Saudi Arabia!

Diligent Research has determined that HRH Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has purchased a great amount of invaluable "acceptance and goodwill" with a $20 Million Dollar Donation to build "bridges to understanding" with Islam!

This generous gift... has been rewarded by allowing a prominent "moderate" imam, Yahya Hendi, a very comfortable office space on campus, right here in Washington, D.C.

It is hoped that a thorough Vatican Investigation into this matter would be deemed appropriate. - reb
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Mystical Time Traveler

This was the best decision that the Church could have made.

A humble, good man of humble beginnings. A man who refuses the "trappings' of his office.

I just pray that he has the balls to excommunicate the Kennedys, Cumos, Bidens, and Pelosis that tell the world the Church is pro-Abortion to win an election.

Snake Hunter

To: MTT ~ Abortion & Gay Marriage are important, but NOT the primary issue facing this nation in the 21st century.

There are 1.4 Billion Muslims today, and most adhere to the dicta of their sacred Qur'an, which demands allegiance to Allah's Apostle Mohammed's actual words in Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, 220.

"I have been made victorious... with terror."

Read Mohammed's Own Words regarding... Women!

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Women.Islam

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R.J. Godlewski

@Snake Hunter,

The Progressive Left has killed 45,000,000+ innocent Americans since 1973.

How many Americans have the Muslims killed thus far?

R.J.

(Rhino!) CBPO Jon A Underwood, CBP, Ret.

This is something that I hope and pray that the new Pope Frances 1 will state clearly:

Any Priest, Nun, Brother or lay member of the Church who sexually abuses children, boy or girls, shall be turned over immediately to local authorities and if convicted, will be excommunicated.

Evil is Evil and I hope the new Pope will not stand for it. Clearly, that will send the correct message.... and start his "tour" in the right direction from the start!

Chavah

R.J., who were the 45,000,000+ innocent Americans? I don't know who you are referring to. Please explain.

Snake Hunter

R.J. - There are strong arguments on both sides of the abortion issue, including theraputic procedures to save the life of the mother in the event of ectopic (tubal) pregnancy; also the incestuous rape of an innocent child, both of which has been rejected in the past by high church officialdom.

If The Ihkwan i.e. muslim brotherhood "project" succeeds here, with their stated goal of replacing the U.S. Constitution with Sharia Law... then freedom of speech, thought and choice are forever lost.

Unholy Jihad Struggle is not a recent invention of radical killers; It's on-going since 622 A.D. and has cost over 250 Million Lives In That Time-Span. read 'Continuum of Wars' -- > Snake Hunter Archives, March - 2010.

reb
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R.J. Godlewski

@Chavah,

I am referring to the number of aborted babies in the U.S. since abortion was legalized.

@Snake,

It is my belief that all abortions are WRONG -- supported by the Catholic Church since the First Century and that "has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion." (CCC #2271)

Furthermore "Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. 'A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,' 'by the very commission of the offense,' and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law." (CCC #2272).

The Church has been far too lenient on this matter, in my opinion.

People do not create human life, God does. God must, therefore, decide who dies in any case pitting the child's life against the mother's (who, incidentally, already had her chance at life).

As for the prevailing currents of Jihad. If the Christians living in America wised up and started acting like Christians, there would be absolutely NOTHING to fear from Islam. Unfortunately, they see us weak and disorganized and they smell blood...

(Rhino!) CBPO Jon A Underwood, CBP, Ret.

I am a little rusty, but I believe that the Jewish position on this is the life is not a life until the child is physically born and outside the womb... Can anyone confirm for me?

I have to say that, in my opinion, (for what that is worth, I'm no RAMBAM) all life is precious, East West, white, black, Jew Gentile and even Muslim, and I think that life begins when G-od makes it so... not when people of this time, culture and liberality, says so...

Snake Hunter

R.J. - I'm not a snake, sir; I hunt 'em, and I make every effort to expose their suicidal doctrines on my blog.

You say that ALL abortions are Wrong, regardless of the innocent circumstances suffered by a child of say... nine years?

If that is your position, it precisely parallels the 52 yr old Mohammed's consummation of his wedding night with 9 yr old child-bride Aisha... in the 7th Century!

That's grim stuff, R.J.

You say that we have "nothing to fear from Islam"...
Tell that to the families that lost close relatives on 9/11/2001.

I would certainly hope that your new Pope Francis, at the very least, has a more enlightened perspective on love, sex and marriage!

reb
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R.J. Godlewski

@Snake HUNTER,

My apologies. :o)You wrote, "I would certainly hope that your new Pope Francis, at the very least, has a more enlightened perspective on love, sex and marriage!"

I did not take you for the Progressive type. :o)

However, when does two wrongs EVER make a right? Yes, the rape of a 9-year-old is horrible. So we 'correct' that situation by killing an infant?

Getting back to earlier comments. My late wife, Sara, was born three months premature. Would she have been 'less human' had she stayed in the womb until nine months?

Also, I will let you in on a secret. I have two siblings that I shall never meet -- at least here on earth. One, I believe, was a tubal pregnancy where my mother bled enough that they literally pulled the blanket over her head believing that she had died.

Had she died, I would not have been here today. Yet, no one but God terminated the pregnancy (positioned as it was). Once you start dehumanizing life then you get into those cultures that believe that they can kill even AFTER birth. Where does it stop? Even abortion supporters have to accept that the fetus will become human at some point (as opposed to a cape buffalo).

R.J.

(Rhino!) CBPO Jon A Underwood, CBP, Ret.

Life is important...

I can understand the thoughts of those that want to insure the births of ALL CHILDREN. Regardless of how the pregnancy occurred..

I can understand the thoughts of those that feel that any pregnancy of rape and incest, which is a form of rape, and for the life of the Mother is important as well.

I think that either position has its merits, but there is no excuse for abortion, to remove the result of promiscuity, personal irresponsibility, drunken or drug induced stupidity... Thousands of people want to adopt, carry the child to term and then pass the precious life to those that will love and cherish it.... I was adopted and I thank G-od for it... everyday!

I was a Soldier and if I could have ever afforded it, I would have adopted so fast it would make my head spin. But, fiscal responsibility has it part in this discussion as well, adoption anyway.

I do believe that if a Woman/Child, is pregnant, there should be a national organization, through national donations, to support the situation in taking care of the baby until born so that new Parents can receive the children they pray for and the child's life will be saved.

Yes, I know that those that are not mature and a responsible person to begin with most likely wont think about the life within them, they will only think about themselves... that's a maturity or moral process that these people are deficient in already...

Life is precious!

Snake Hunter

I would certainly agree with Jon that lufe is precious. That's a given.

However, I do not believe that religious notions of precisely how life began... is another matter.

I do not share my roman-catholic friends belief in Papal Infallibility... "in matters of faith & morals."


If 'Fait'h deals with thought, and 'Morals' with action, then the entire range of human experience falls within the papal claim!

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R.J. should take a few minutes to read Martel Sobiesky views on Islam.

It's found right here in Debbie's Catagories. - reb
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Snake Hunter

J.R. Time did not permit, but to expand your views you really should read why great minds of Copernicus and Galilleo were condemned by Cardinal Bellarmine and Pope Urban VIII for teaching that the earth rotated on it's axis!

The Point: Popes Are People... Capable of Greivous Error... just like you, and me. - reb
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R.J. Godlewski

@Snake Hunter,

Pope Urban VIII's challenge against Galileo had little to do with whether the earth rotated around its axis -- such thoughts went as far back as Ancient Greece -- and much to do with Galileo's arrogance towards "his way" being the right way. It would be as if a student were trying to convince a professor that the student was correct in everything.

"R.J. should take a few minutes to read Martel Sobiesky views on Islam."

I am not even going to bother with that.

However, to keep things friendly, I will return to my original thought. Since I am a Catholic and believe that God Himself created the Church, I have NOTHING to fear from Islam. Should ANY Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Moonie, etc. be perceived as a threat, then I will take the necessary countermeasures.

I could argue, for instance, that Jews are just as dangerous as Muslims. The difference being, of course, is that there is 1 billion Muslims and only ~14 million Jews, so simple statistics implies that the Muslim threat is greater.

None of this means that I am going to go through my day excessively worrying about any particular group. I listen to God and the Pope. Everyone else has to earn my respect... :o)

Snake Hunter

R.J. ~ If you choose to isolate yourself from the real world of negatives and positives, and prefer to ignore the history of good & evil, it's difficult to understand how you must struggle with right vs wrong in every day living.

If I suggested that Pope Urban VIII and Cardinal Bellarmine were equally guilty of avoiding the factual details of that era, and considered Copernicanism as a "very dangerous attitude" would you agree with them? Such fuzzy thinking in 1600 led to the death of Giordano Bruno: he was burned at the stake for the ultimate crime of... Heresy.

Thank Goodness, violence in the name of a G-d is no longer acceptable...

Whereas, Allah's Apostle said, "I have been made victorious with terror."
Bukhari, Vol 4, Book 52, 220

Martel Sobiesky is a scholar, and a fine middle-east historian worth the time, for the unaware friend or neighbor.

reb
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(Rhino!) CBPO Jon A Underwood, CBP, Ret.

"Thank Goodness, violence in the name of a G-d is no longer acceptable"... Except for Muslims, especially with this administration... right?

All religions have probably went through this "violence" side somewhere along with the history of their faith's... The only problem is that, A long with advances in technology, The world wont be able to live through the tendency of Muslims to be violent, based upon their desire to die for Allah...

I feel that G-od communed directly with Abraham, Isaac and Moses, his direction on how to live
and the 10 commandments seem a pretty good direction of living ones life...

If you are a good person, that does not threaten, endanger, assault, destroy of kill, no matter your religion, I think your most likely a pretty good person.

Since I am not Adonai, I could be wrong. Only G-od is perfect.

Ralph E. Benn

Snake Hunter Sez,

Jon - I tend to agree with you; none of us are near perfection.

I suppose my only purpose at this age is to ring an alarm bell, hoping to alert the unaware of our extreme peril from Islam, plus the infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood "Project", and of course the 'willful blindness' of this powerful crop of evil social-progressivism out of Chicago, Illinois!

Ralph E. Benn, Oak Ridge, Tennessee
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Ralph E. Benn

Snake Hunter Sez,

Sir Jon - I first came to "alert status" on November 4, 1979 when Iran's Grand Ayatollah grabbed our embassy in Tehran; (An Act of War). Now these "soldiers of allah" are close to nuclear capability.

It's my personal view that
considering this long series of outrageous behavior, it will take more than a pious attitude and "faith", or regular church attendance on sunday... to stop them.

Read Sobiesky's article...

'WHY MOSQUES SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN'

(A hat-tip and a thank-you to our fine host, Debbie's Catagories) - reb
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