Frederick William Dame
Truthful Commentary concerning some responses to
An Open Letter to
On December 9, 2013 An Open Letter to Obama Conspiracy Theoriesathttp://www.obamaconspiracy.org/birthers-from-a-to-z/#0was posted by Don Fredrick at The Obama Timeline. It was re-posted on December 10, 2013 by Debbie Hamilton at RightTruth. I thank Don Fredrick and Debbie Hamilton for their postings.
At RightTruth there were five comments to the Open Letter. They are presented below. Normally, I do not comment on any statements other people make about my writings. However, this time I am making an exception because I want to say "Thank You" to responsible persons and because the seriousness of some of the comments. The readers' comments are in Times New Roman font. My truthful commentaries thereto are in Arial font.
Comment Number 1:
I hope readers will contact Obama Conspiracy Theories and suggest they add Mr. Dame to their list.
Posted by: Debbie | December 10, 2013 at 08:05 AM
TRUTHFUL COMMENTARY: I thank you Debbie for your support.
Comment Number 2:
If you are sincere in your CLAIM that Obama was born in a foreign country, then you could answer this:
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened. (Oh, and by the way, we do not even know that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961----and very very few 18-year-olds did have passports in that year.)
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Posted by: smrstrauss1 | December 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM
TRUTHFUL COMMENTARY: If one accepts the rules of logic, the chances that all three items you state happened are the same chances that all three items you state did not happen. As an aside, the logic in the Constitution for the United States of America (http://www.colony14.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/theconstitutionfortheunitedstatesofamerica.pdf) explicitly concludes that the United States of America does not have a constitutionally defined president. (http://www.colony14.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/acountrywithoutapresident.pdf)
I could say that I believe Obama was born in Kenya is true because it is so absurd. The same goes for saying that Obama was not born in Kenya. That is also absurd. However, in order to understand the logic behind believing an absurdity it is necessary to delve into the etymological development of the terms absurd and absurdity. I am not going to do this for you. You can do it yourself. It will be an educational experience for you. At the same time, it is also necessary to understand the contribution of the concept of the absurd and the belief in something that is absurd as it occurs in philosophy. The fact that someone says that s/he believes in something because it is absurd is not absurd in itself. I am not going to explain this any further to you. You can research it yourself. It will be an educational experience for you.
The important matter about BIRTHERS is not really where Obama was born. It is the fact that regardless of where he was born, he still cannot be a natural born citizen according to Article 2, Section 1.5 of the Constitution for the United States of America because his father was not an America citizen at the time of his birth. Neither was his mother. She was only 17 and not 18. Furthermore, if Barack Hussein Obama's father was Malcolm X, Barack Hussein Obama is still not an American citizen because his mother was not a legal citizen; although I will state that on this point I am not sure that the age would make any difference if the case were decided in today's court. If Barack Hussein Obama was born in Canada, as some evidence indicates as a possibility, then the natural born citizen case is settled. The definition of natural born citizen is being born of two parents of a country who themselves are citizens of that country. The Founding Fathers knew the meaning. (http://www.colony14.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/thecolonialfrenchconnection.pdf)
The Supreme Court of the United States of America has also defined the meaning. (http://www.colony14.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/reportonnaturalborncitizenfraud.pdfMinor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)) I am not going to repeat their definition.
Read the judicial, investigative work of the birthers Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo. One cannot refute their legal arguments, unless one refutes the Constitution for the United States of America. There is a long history of progressives, obots, liberals, dumbed-downers, socialist/communists refuting the Constitution for the United States of America.
Some other reasons or proofs that Obama was born in Kenya are:
The literary agent kept this information on file. Read http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Obama-pamphlet-in-use-2007
Furthermore, the fact was not an oversight. Read http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/18/dystel-biography-submission-guidelines-obama-kenya-fact-checking-error
What do Kenyans and the government of Kenya say?
The Kenyan Government:
Of course, you may not believe the information from these sites. However, that is your problem, not mine.
Now we both know that Barack Hussein Obama could be lying about the circumstances of his birth. The fact that he is lying is exceedingly greater than his possibly telling the truth.
Comment Number 3:
Writing an open letter is certainly "the hard way" to get added to the "Birthers from A to Z" list (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/birthers-from-a-to-z/). Most folks just leave a comment on my blog.
I am pleased to add Mr. Dame, the 321st notable birther on my list.
Posted by: DrConspiracy | December 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Mr. Dame is pleased that he was added to this list of prominent American Patriots. Moreover, "Writing an open letter is certainly "the hard way" to get added to the "Birthers from A to Z" is not true. It was rather quite an easy way. All that Mr. Dame had to do was to write the truth!
Comment Number 4:
I will make sure Mr. Dame gets the message. Perhaps those who are not familiar with your site will have some extra exposure from the open letter.
Posted by: Debbie | December 10, 2013 at 01:12 PM
TRUTHFUL COMMENTARY: Mr. Dame received the message and thanks Debbie again for her support.
Comment Numbers 5 and 6
No answer yet to the question about "For Obama to have been born in a foreign country."
Posted by: smrstrauss | December 11, 2013 at 09:46 AM
TRUTHFUL COMMENTARY: To smrstrauss I say that your impatience at receiving an answer to the question about "For Obama to have been born in a foreign country." in no way complements, nor is it commensurate to the patience you have in believing what Obama, his progressives, his obots, his liberals, his dumbed-downers, and his socialist communists, as well as the contrived, polemical information at http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/birthers-from-a-to-z/.
As of this writing there are 34 responses to the OPEN LETTER at http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/birthers-from-a-to-z/#0. I have read all of them. However, I will not respond to them. The reason is The Fool's Law: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. – Proverbs 26:4 (King James version of the Holy Bible). Sometimes the statement is modernized by saying "Never argue with a fool – they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience." (Origin uncertain.)
Frederick William Dame
Patriotic, Steadfast, and True
December 20, 2013.
P. S: If it is ever proven beyond doubt by legal, non-forged documentary evidence that Barack Hussein Obama was not born in Kenya, and was born in Hawaii, and is a natural born citizen of the United States of America, I will do something that a progressive, an obot, a liberal, a dumbed-downer, a socialist/communist, and Barack Hussein Obama himself will never do. I will admit that I was wrong.
(Originally posted at The Obama Timeline here http://www.colony14.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/truthfulcommentarr.pdf)